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	<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Chrysler new incentives</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119846</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Chrysler incentives include 0% financing, cash back<br />
<a href='http://www.detnews.com/article/20091120/AUTO01/911200419/1148/Chrysler-incentives-include-0--financing--cash-back' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.detnews.com/article/20091120/AUTO01/911200419/1148/Chrysler-incentives-include-0--financing--cash-back</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Challenger Police Package</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119844</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Looks like a few areas will be using the Challenger as a Police Pursuit vehicle. It's sooo hot! This one is from Broward County S.O.<div id='attach_wrap' class='rounded clearfix'>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>HD Delays and availability</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119843</link>
		<description><![CDATA[We're anxiously awaiting the 2010 HD's.  Anyone with real "onofficial" word as to what's going on with them.  All we can get at dealer end is delayed.  Personally I perfer the Allpar groups information more than what management is told from corporate.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 16:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>mystery PEC sebring spotted at CTC</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119842</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Hi guys already shared this on GMI but I figured I'd share here as well. I was at CTC two days ago and spotted this PEC sebring<br />
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Normally I wouldn't think too much of a sebring tester like this (since they are usually just old testers) but I noticed that the 15 engineers that were on site all seemed to have there focus on the engine of this particular sebring so I went in for a bit of a closer look<br />
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Yes i Know the last two pics are a tad blurry but my camera is not an SLR (only has a max zoom of 16X) and with 15 engineers walking around I decided to not venture any closer. Some folks seem to think that this could either be a pentastar mule or a tester that has Fiats new 4 cylinder Love to here what allpar thinks]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Y10 vehices ?</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119838</link>
		<description>When will we see the Y10 Jeep line , Or get some info on them ?</description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Chrysler vows to be a quality leader by 2012</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119823</link>
		<description><![CDATA[According to <a href='http://detnews.com/article/20091119/AUTO01/911190408/-Different--Chrysler-zeroes-in-on-quality' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>today's Detroit News</a>, Chrysler is claiming that they will be a (though not "the") quality leader by the end of 2012. They (and many other auto makers) have made similar claims before. Sometimes they achieve these goals. More often they don't. Chrysler's chances?<br />
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Chrysler is increasing its odds of success by making what appear to be substantial changes to its organization and culture. A new senior VP of quality has been hired away from Nissan (they're a quality leader?). The quality organizatioin has been enlarged from 200 to 1,700 people. These people have been organized into cross-functional teams focused on the quick execution of needed changes. Perhaps the biggest change of all: Chrysler now claims that they will tackle problems rather than pretending they don't exist or ignoring them and hoping they'll go away. (Which has been proven to result in customers going away.)<br />
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Unknown: whether these people really have the pull to get their requested changes executed. Large organizations are chock full of special teams charged with getting something done, but without the pull to actually get it done. Is this one of those?<br />
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Chryler claims that engineering changes have already had a substantial impact on existing products. Supposedly, while 75 percent of defects were design-related last year, with the remaining 25 percent occurring during assembly, the ratio is now 50-50. If we assume that the number of assembly defects has not changed, this implies that the total number of defects has already been cut in half. <br />
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Too good to be true? Are these just rough, shoot-from-the-hip numbers? Perhaps, but if the head of quality is dishing out such numbers...not the most promising sign.<br />
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Also, why haven't the assembly-related problems come down, if this is the case? These should be easier to quickly reduce than the design-related problems, since you don't have to design and validate new parts to fix them.<br />
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TrueDelta promptly updates its Car Reliability Survey results four times a year, not just once after a lengthy delay. So if Chrysler's quality does improve, it will show up here first:<br />
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<a href='http://www.truedelta.com' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Car Reliability Survey results</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>November sales</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119822</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/11/automakers-launch-holiday-promotions-to-offset-november-sales-blues.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.autoobserver.com/2009/11/automakers-launch-holiday-promotions-to-offset-november-sales-blues.html</a><br />
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It looks sales are still falling<br />
Chrysler will sell 55,000 vehicles, down 35.0 percent from November 2008 and down 15.8 percent from October for a market share of 7.8 percent, down from 11.4 percent in November 2008 and flat from 7.8 percent in October.<br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 17:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119822</guid>
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		<title><![CDATA['11 Charger - Rendered Speculation]]></title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119817</link>
		<description><![CDATA[<a href='http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-charger-2011.html' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.leftlanenews.com/dodge-charger-2011.html</a><br />
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>2012 Viper to be shown in LA?</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119810</link>
		<description><![CDATA[Check this out: <a href='http://www.laautoshow.com/Debuts.aspx' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.laautoshow.com/Debuts.aspx</a>]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 06:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Large Van Assembly Site?</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=119808</link>
		<description><![CDATA[In the turnaround plant and this week's Allpar article, it talked about the large body-on-frame van that will be made in the US.  Does anyone have an idea of where it may be made?]]></description>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 05:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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