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Ok...I have a 93 spirit 3.0 that start one day and not another. I bench tested the starter and it works. I replaced the starter relay witch buzzes when i turn the key. Neutral safety switch works. I replaced the ignition switch. Battery is good and it still doesn't want to start. There is power to the starter but it doesn't spin or make noise. When I replaced the ignition switch it started right up. I turned it on and off 5 or 6 times and it worked. I drive to work and at the end of the day it doesn't start so I have to take the dang bus home. I'm so frustrated. I don't know what else to do.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 10:30 AM

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This might seem like a no-brainer, but plugs/cap/rotor/wires? How old are they? The ignition system has the most stress put on it when you're starting the car, so you might want to check those components. Just take the cap off the distributor and look at the contacts to see what's going on in there, and it doesn't hurt to make sure all those wires are snug on their respective connections. Also, fuel pump starting to crap out might not be providing enough pressure to prime the injectors?

Both of these would likely make themselves known in other subtle ways when the car is running, such as stumbling at idle. Just two more things to check anyways.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 10:30 AM

Next time it doesn't start, whack the starter. Or even better if you have someone to help, hold the key to start and whack the starter.

I had 2 94 LeBarons with 3.0s. Both had starters that failed soon after 100k. But I was never stranded because hitting the starter got them home, I believe it's the contacts inside that corroded. I just used a junkyard starter for $12 of the other design. One was Bosch, one was Denso. One had this problem, the other did not.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 11:32 AM

View Postoffa_broadway, on Mar 14 2009, 11:30 AM, said:

This might seem like a no-brainer, but plugs/cap/rotor/wires? How old are they? The ignition system has the most stress put on it when you're starting the car, so you might want to check those components. Just take the cap off the distributor and look at the contacts to see what's going on in there, and it doesn't hurt to make sure all those wires are snug on their respective connections. Also, fuel pump starting to crap out might not be providing enough pressure to prime the injectors?

Both of these would likely make themselves known in other subtle ways when the car is running, such as stumbling at idle. Just two more things to check anyways.


He said it won't turn over.


You say you have power at the starter, if that's the case then it's got to be either a bad ground or the starter itself. Likely the starter itself.
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Posted 14 March 2009 - 03:08 PM

If you have or did have valve covers that leaked oil, some oil may have got into the starter to cause a starting problem - that's what happrned to my sons 93 Acclaim with the 3.0L. His starter had a lot of oil inside.
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Posted 15 March 2009 - 03:01 AM

On a Nippondenso starter, the copper contacts get worn down inside. There's a "starter solenoid repait kit" available, part #ND-34Sol... It has new copper contacts and solenoid plunger. I bought one because that's the exact same problem I'm having with my mini van; I have yet to actually do the repair though. :rolleyes: Only other option is a new starter.
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Posted 19 March 2009 - 03:11 AM

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the problem seemed to go away but next time it happens I am going to replace the solenoid. Thanks
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