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Nissan to offer shorter Rogue Sport...to lure sedan buyers?

Discussion in 'Auto News & Rumors' started by Stratuscaster, Jan 10, 2017.

  1. Stratuscaster

    Stratuscaster Vaguely badass... Staff Member Supporter

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    Nissan feeds Rogue demand with smaller Sport

    So even Nissan sees the shift in consumer preference to the modern hatchback/station wagon.

    For those that ask about why there are "so many Jeep models that are very close together in size" - it's this. Blanket the market with offerings at every size and inevitably you'll catch something.
     
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  2. npaladin2000

    npaladin2000 LOAD "*",8,1 Level 2 Supporter

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    This is going to keep happening with other manufacturers. It's just happening with FCA relatively quickly because A: they're capacity constrained, and B: they have a greater need for higher margin sales versus lower margin ones.
     
  3. FGA cheerleader

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    This is a proper European C-segment crossover.
     
  4. MJAB

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    It is in the same segment of Jeep Compass.
    Nissan Qashqai in Europe is the best selling model in its segment, 230,661 registered vehicles in 2015.
     
  5. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Well-Known Member Level III Supporter

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    The Qashqai is a good vehicle. I put over 2,000 km on one in Europe over 2 weeks.
     
  6. patfromigh

    patfromigh Active Member

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    The 2 liter four the Nissan uses has 141hp. People complain about the Tigershark of the same size putting out 160.

    So whatever happened to the rumored Alfa Romeo crossover of the same size as the Qashqai?
     
  7. npaladin2000

    npaladin2000 LOAD "*",8,1 Level 2 Supporter

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    Nissan engines tend to be big on low-end torque, maybe that's the difference. A lot of the time, you have to sacrifice the low-end torque tuning for more top-end HP. That's why I hate Hyundai engines so much....
     
  8. Stratuscaster

    Stratuscaster Vaguely badass... Staff Member Supporter

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    You mean the Hyundai 4-cylinders that are - or at least WERE - based on the same WGE block as the Chrysler and Mitsu 4-cylinder engines?

    For the longest time, the "import" engines were low on low-end torque. People were up in arms over it when "domestic" engines followed suit - and it seems the biggest reason for following suit was that "if 400000 Corolla buyers were happy with less low-end torque, then we should do that, too."

    Ghosn is not stupid. He can easily use the Qashqai to go up against the new Compass, while the existing Rogue goes against the Cherokee.
     
  9. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Well-Known Member Level III Supporter

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    ....and Ford will have the EcoSport to go against the Compass as well. This is going to be a very competitive segment.
     
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  10. valiant67

    valiant67 Rich Corinthian Leather Level III Supporter

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    That's why the margins here are going to erode quickly. The point of over-saturation is probably happening sooner than any car company wants to admit. And when that happens, appliance makers win the day.
     
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  11. MJAB

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    Ford Ecosport size is similar to a Ford Fiesta, smaller than a Jeep Renegade.
     
  12. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Well-Known Member Level III Supporter

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    Brazilian Ford Ecosport is same as Jeep Compass......which is the segment where Ford is positioning it in the US.

    Which EcoSport are you familiar with?
     
  13. npaladin2000

    npaladin2000 LOAD "*",8,1 Level 2 Supporter

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    Yeah I mean those engines.
     
  14. MJAB

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    The modified version that Ford did for european market, where was not selling as expected, has no external rear tyre, that is a free option if the customer wants it.
    European model initially was built in India, but now they will be built in Romania since increased sales after facelift. The one that will arrive in U.S.A. should be manufactured in India instead of the european one.

    Length is 4,017 mm without rear spare tyre and 4,273 mm with external rear spare tyre. Brazilian version total length is 4.241 mm with the external spare tyre (has no spare tyre cover).
    An european Jeep Renegade has a length of 4,236 mm and a Fiat 500L is 4147 mm.
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  15. BobbiBigWheels

    BobbiBigWheels I'm likely at work... Ad-Free Member

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    There must have been a point (before my time) that sedans carried strong margins, and then everyone built a decent sedan. Now comes the CUVs, or tall sedans.
    When the saturation takes hold, and price-point and standard options become king - bye bye margins.