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#1 atwork

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 05:03 pm

I have come across references to 2013 KL.

Anyone know (and can say) what this might be?

#2 Dave

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 05:05 pm

Jeep Liberty replacement, no?

#3 ImperialCrown

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 05:11 pm

The original Liberty was the KJ. The current Liberty is the KK. The next logical step would be the KL. (The Nitro is KA).

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 05:41 pm

I'm pretty sure that KL was Superman's father....

So 2013 model in 2012, just as the Plan said, makes me wonder "where" it's being built? SHAP?
So far there is little activity at Toledo North which would indicate a change over is coming soon, could Toledo be losing this line?

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 05:43 pm

I'm pretty sure that KL was Superman's father....

So 2013 model in 2012, just as the Plan said, makes me wonder "where" it's being built? SHAP?
So far there is little activity at Toledo North which would indicate a change over is coming soon, could Toledo be losing this line?


Clearly they are building a new plant in Metropolis. :rolleyes:

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 05:46 pm

Clearly they are building a new plant in Metropolis. :rolleyes:


DOH! Why didn't I think of that! I wonder if the plant is off road or on an unimproved road???

#7 Mick M

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 05:52 pm

Its goig to be built where the unimproved road meets the off road trail. LOL
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#8 Marauder_Pilot

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 06:02 pm

No, this is a KL:
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#9 Mick M

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 06:08 pm

I shoul have said where the unimproved road meets the bamboo forest. LOL
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Posted November 22, 2010 at 09:00 pm

I am thinking that this is the Chrysler crossover promised in the turnaround plan. It will more than likely be a de-facto replacement for the Pacifica.

#11 patfromigh

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 09:39 pm

It is the Panda based Jeep. KindaLame :rimshot:

#12 AHHA

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 10:33 pm

I have come across references to 2013 KL.

Anyone know (and can say) what this might be?


Next Liberty for sure.

#13 suzq044

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Posted November 22, 2010 at 10:40 pm

It's the King Liberty.. jk.

but really, probably (as most have said) the next Liberty or equivalent..

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Posted November 23, 2010 at 06:21 am

Could the next Liberty be built at Sterling Heights alongside the next-generation 200 on a modified C-Evo architecture?

That would free up Toledo for more Wrangler variants...........

#15 Jeff2KPatriotBlue

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Posted November 23, 2010 at 07:01 am

Clearly they are building a new plant in Metropolis. :rolleyes:

No. I think it will be at the super secret "Fortress of Solitude" plant in the Canadian arctic.

#16 John Rogers

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Posted November 23, 2010 at 07:53 am

I'm pretty sure that KL was Superman's father...

:rimshot:

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Posted November 23, 2010 at 10:05 am

will the next Liberty be based on the Journey?

#18 sebring96hbg

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Posted November 23, 2010 at 10:17 am

will the next Liberty be based on the Journey?



Get a defib over to Norm stat!

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Posted November 23, 2010 at 10:31 am

KL is, without a doubt, the Liberty replacement. This conclusion is based on how Chrysler's usual platform nomenclature and existing engineering documentation.

Toledo North is the planned site for the compact wide-based Liberty, and other mid-sized SUV, variants.

Freeing up Toledo North, for more Wrangler variants, is completely impossible becasue of the plant layouts and what each plant is designed for. They are, in fact, two completely separate plants joined only by a pathway between them and the parking lot surrounding them. The Wrangler line is a very small line that is reliant upon its feeder lines from the suppliers that share the complex. The North plant's logistics, and its unibody carriers, make it impossible to produce Wranglers without a having to nearly gut and redo the assemly area.

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Posted November 23, 2010 at 10:38 am

will the next Liberty be based on the Journey?


According to the Plan and information given by Marchionne, the next Liberty is based upon Fiat architecture, such as C-wide (D-wide?). There have been several reports and drawings from Chrysler showing the suspension parts and talking about the responsibility of Jeep Engineers to incorporate these parts into a new Jeep. It all about maximizing the use of common parts under Marchionne's plan to get the most from the least.
The curious aspect of this is the lack of any obvious work at Toledo to get the facility at TNAP ready for the new vehicles. This suggest that either line changes will be minimal, or that another facility (SHAP?) will be the builder of the new vehicle.
It probably won't be based upon the Journey, as there are other plans for that facility. Unless the Journey also gets the same Fiat parts, it does not fit into the consolidation plans.


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