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Chrysler production has risen dramatically in January 2012, compared with January 2011, despite buildout of the Dodge Caliber, Dodge Dakota, and Dodge Nitro in 2011. Nearly every model saw a hike in production, with the notable exceptions of Chrysler Town & Country (balanced by more Caravans), Volkswagen Routan, and, now that the pipeline has been filled, Dodge Durango. January US 2012 US 2011 Canada 2012 Canada 2011 Mexico 2012 Mexico 2011 2012 2011 Cars 15,127 14,192 19,135 10,602 6,176 908 40,438 25,162 Trucks 90,045 72,528 23,779 23,992 31,021 17,594 144,845 113,844 Total 105,172 86,720 42,914 34,594 37,197 18,502 185,283 139,816 The greatest gainers were Avenger (from 3,520 to 6,380), 300 (from 57 to 6,734), Charger (6,795 to 8,139), Fiat 500 (908 to 5,478), Ram Heavy Duty (8,134 to 11,896), Journey (7,812 to 10,727), and Ram 1500 (16,411 to 19,946 in the US, and 1,622 to 2,122 in Mexico). Of the..

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[The Mad Duck]

Aahhhhhhhhhhh !

I Was Suppose to Get a Couple of Weekends Off !!!!!


TMD

Edited by The Mad Duck, February 8, 2012 at 06:53 pm.

[DaveAdmin]

Well, that's past production - maybe they'll slow down now

Not likely 'till Ram's pipelined!

[Longtimejeep]

These jobs have always been boom or bust...no middle ground.

[The Mad Duck]

What's the Saying "There's is Nothing New in History, It Only ....."

TMD

[Cdnautowrkr444]

DaveAdmin, on February 10, 2012 at 01:26 pm, said:

Well, that's past production - maybe they'll slow down now

Not likely 'till Ram's pipelined!

Windsor Assembly is working Saturday and has built Max Production every day this week.  Doesn't look like things are gonna slow down.  Februaryis usually a slow month

[Hemi 265]

Has there been any rhd production going on?

[Powerflite]

Sounds like 3.6L engine shortages have eased.

[Cdnautowrkr444]

Hemi 265, on February 11, 2012 at 05:17 am, said:

Has there been any rhd production going on?

Yes RHD and Deisel are starting to ramp back up

[jsb399]

Chrysler buying market share now, pushing hard on incentives, leveraging their advantage as low cost producer post bankruptcy.
Only problem with this is very little profit margin, as evidenced by fourth quarter.
Expect big markdowns and more rebates as the year goes along.

Edited by jsb399, February 11, 2012 at 01:15 pm.

[Hemi 265]

Cdnautowrkr444, on February 11, 2012 at 12:34 pm, said:

Yes RHD and Deisel are starting to ramp back up

Thanks for that. I'm assuming your talking about the Voyager?

[Cdnautowrkr444]

yes

[trumpet12345]

jsb399, on February 11, 2012 at 01:14 pm, said:

Chrysler buying market share now, pushing hard on incentives, leveraging their advantage as low cost producer post bankruptcy.
Only problem with this is very little profit margin, as evidenced by fourth quarter.
Expect big markdowns and more rebates as the year goes along.

yeah, 3k off a 200 should move tons of them. I mean, haggle down to invoice on top of that, and it just undercuts everyone.

[jsb399]

trumpet12345, on February 12, 2012 at 12:27 pm, said:

yeah, 3k off a 200 should move tons of them. I mean, haggle down to invoice on top of that, and it just undercuts everyone.

as i've said before, Chrysler is Ford's and GM's worst nightmare, Chrysler is killing pricing for both of them and even the Japanese and Koreans are rebating more and more.
saving GM and Chrysler is why the auto industry will end up like the airline industry with too many companies and no profit margin.
like it or not, classic economics says GM and Chrysler should have been liquidated to allow only the strong and better managed to survive and eliminate excess capacity and allow for healthy profit margins. if you look across the industry even the most profitable are only netting out 3% to 5%. now having said that, i realize politically no country is going to allow their auto companies to go under. all this is great news for the consumer, not so good for producers.
GM made a huge mistake not doing a shotgun marriage with Chrysler per the government's wishes.
Ford and GM will continue to slip share to Chrysler and Chrysler is going to eat away at both of them for the 50% of the consumers who will only buy American.

Edited by jsb399, February 12, 2012 at 04:34 pm.

[SptFury]

jsb399, on February 12, 2012 at 04:26 pm, said:

as i've said before, Chrysler is Ford's and GM's worst nightmare, Chrysler is killing pricing for both of them and even the Japanese and Koreans are rebating more and more.
saving GM and Chrysler is why the auto industry will end up like the airline industry with too many companies and no profit margin.
like it or not, classic economics says GM and Chrysler should have been liquidated to allow only the strong and better managed to survive and eliminate excess capacity and allow for healthy profit margins. if you look across the industry even the most profitable are only netting out 3% to 5%. now having said that, i realize politically no country is going to allow their auto companies to go under. all this is great news for the consumer, not so good for producers.
GM made a huge mistake not doing a shotgun marriage with Chrysler per the government's wishes.
Ford and GM will continue to slip share to Chrysler and Chrysler is going to eat away at both of them for the 50% of the consumers who will only buy American.

jsb, you must work for Ford or a Ford dealer, by the way businesses use lower prices to 1) buy into a market or 2) to squeeze out the competition so that you can control profit margins. I would say that Chrysler is trying to buy a little market space.Ford has done that for years, pile um high, sell them cheap to gain control of the fleet business with their trucks.

[jsb399]

SptFury, on February 12, 2012 at 04:43 pm, said:

jsb, you must work for Ford or a Ford dealer, by the way businesses use lower prices to 1) buy into a market or 2) to squeeze out the competition so that you can control profit margins. I would say that Chrysler is trying to buy a little market space.Ford has done that for years, pile um high, sell them cheap to gain control of the fleet business with their trucks.

race to the bottom is what the incentive game is.
but hey, i'm not complaining, i'm ready to buy a Patriot and they just raised the rebate to $1,000 on all trim levels even the base Sport.

Edited by jsb399, February 12, 2012 at 05:49 pm.

[drew54]

Looking at rebates shows that the Liberty and Avenger are at $3,000 off, Charger is $2,000 off, 300, Challenger, Caliber, and Rams are at $1,500 off, and everything else is at $1,000 other than the Journey and Ram C/V at $500.

I would say these are not end of the world incentives. Liberty and Avenger are not long for this world. The LX cars being the highest of the new stuff is interesting, but what are their competitors rebates right now? Isn't February a slow month?

I used http://www.lotpro.co...entives/rebates to find this and it appears to be checking out with the manufacture pages.

Edited by drew54, February 12, 2012 at 07:19 pm.

[jsb399]

drew54, on February 12, 2012 at 07:13 pm, said:

Looking at rebates shows that the Liberty and Avenger are at $3,000 off, Charger is $2,000 off, 300, Challenger, Caliber, and Rams are at $1,500 off, and everything else is at $1,000 other than the Journey and Ram C/V at $500.

I would say these are not end of the world incentives. Liberty and Avenger are not long for this world. The LX cars being the highest of the new stuff is interesting, but what are their competitors rebates right now? Isn't February a slow month?

I used http://www.lotpro.co...entives/rebates to find this and it appears to be checking out with the manufacture pages.

Chrysler 200 is $3,000.
Liberty is $4,000.

[trumpet12345]

jeep site only lists 3000 for liberty for me