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Dealers will be able to order the 2014 Jeep Compass and Patriot starting on Tuesday, January 8, according to reliable source oh2o; production is currently slated for March. The primary difference between the 2014s and the 2013s will be a conventional six-speed automatic transmission, replacing the CVT. The JATCO-supplied CVT, used with different tuning by Nissan, has been a major source of criticism for the vehicles. While oh2o did not specifically state that this would happen, many observers expect the cars to use the new TigerShark versions of the “World Gas Engine.” The updated 2.0 and 2.4 liter engines produce more midrange torque and are reportedly more fuel-efficient than the originals. The 2.0 continues to use the original dual variable valve timing system, retuned for better responsiveness, while the 2.4 will use Fiat’s sophisticated MultiAir II system that can adjust valve timing for each cylinder individually. While the revised..

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[Moparian]

Dart R/T is delayed to mid April currently. 

[MoparNorm]

"Moparian Today, 06:33 am
Dart R/T is delayed to mid April currently."

??? The post was about Compass/Patriot.

[Moparian]

"Moparian Today, 06:33 am
Dart R/T is delayed to mid April currently."

??? The post was about Compass/Patriot.

Yes but if you read the full article it states that the Dart R/T is  coming in March. 

[Dr. Z]

It should say that the Dart R/T is due in April and the Compass/Patriot in March.

[Bob_Sheaves]

Yes but if you read the full article it states that the Dart R/T is  coming in March. 

No that is NOT what the article says...

 

..."The March production date is close to the expected launch of the Dart R/T, which will be the first Dart to use the revised engine. (Dart R/T production has been delayed from January.)"

 

English comprehension level seems to be dropping....

 

 

[Dr. Z]

My fault, guys. I thought I'd written the April date in, but I hadn't. It is mis-leading though technically correct. I've updated it.

[Erik Latranyi]

No that is NOT what the article says...

 

..."The March production date is close to the expected launch of the Dart R/T, which will be the first Dart to use the revised engine. (Dart R/T production has been delayed from January.)"

 

English comprehension level seems to be driopping....

 

 

 

Bob:

 

On another note, can you comment on the Patriot AWD and how they will accomplish "Trail Rating".  Strat remembers something about the Magna DynaMax.

[Moparian]

 

English comprehension level seems to be dropping....

 

 

No Bob my comprehension is fine  , more like I am at work and skimmed the article.  I apologize.  

[jerseyjoe]

This sounds like just what these vehicles needed and makes the Patriot more attractive especially since the Patriot POP UP in the article says Patriot will get 30mpg!! The fact that Patriot has a lot of area for 2-Way radio antennas, may be a mobile Ham Shack in my future. Put on a dome for astronomy equipment and I might not even notice the divorce!

[The Mad Duck]

Is it a 62TE ?

 

TMD

[Bob_Sheaves]

Bob:
 
On another note, can you comment on the Patriot AWD and how they will accomplish "Trail Rating".  Strat remembers something about the Magna DynaMax.

Go to the middle of this page:

http://www.allpar.co...4-cherokee.html

There is a description of how a low range COULD be added, NOT HOW IT WILL.

[ImperialCrown]

Is it a 62TE ?

 

TMD

 

Maybe like what they did with the 41TE/42LE transaxle having it become the 42RLE in a wide range of V6 RWD/4WD trucks and LX cars.

The 62RLE (?) may be a stop-gap measure until the new generation transmissions become available. It should be able to handle TigerShark torque, but probably not turbo-diesel torque.

 

 I think that the current generation Patriot's Off-Road package selectable CVT2L with 19:1 crawler ratio 4WD Freedom Drive II allowed it the coveted Jeep Trail Rating.

This is going away in this upcoming iteration as Bob has noted. At least for now.

The Compass Freedom Drive I is not Trail Rated.

http://www.jeep.com/...reedom_drive_2/

[oh2o]

Transmission is DA4/6F24, same/similar to what is in the Dart.

Engines are the same as 2013 model year, 2.0L & 2.4L, 2.2L CRD for export.

[Mr.Source]

We had numerous fights with Chrysler because of the JUNK CVT until they listen, the CVT is junk.

Now wait for Detroit press conference, you'll like what they are going to tell us.

[oh2o]

We had numerous fights with Chrysler because of the JUNK CVT until they listen, the CVT is junk.
Now wait for Detroit press conference, you'll like what they are going to tell us.

I assume that they are going to tell us that the CVT is/was JUNK and that they are replacing it with the 6F24...

[vipergg]

  Wow the Compass may have to go back on my  small vehicle  hit list for my next car if they put a normal auto in it.  Wouldn't go near a cvt  if Chrysler paid me to drive it !!!

[Bearhawke]

I swear: it seems that many of Mopar's 'obsolete' models in 2013 (by the standards of ca. 4 year major makeovers) still have legs where sales and profit are concerned: first the Avenger/200 (Sebring) and now the Compass/Patriot. 

[valiant67]

I swear: it seems that many of Mopar's 'obsolete' models in 2013 (by the standards of ca. 4 year major makeovers) still have legs where sales and profit are concerned: first the Avenger/200 (Sebring) and now the Compass/Patriot.

Yep, it seems they really weren't bad vehicles but they just weren't properly executed in many details at the original release.

[SouthPawXJ]

Compass did get a new front in MY2011 whereas Patriot did not. The Compass needed it too; that was a face only a mother could love.

Edited by SouthPawXJ, January 5, 2013 at 10:38 am.