Upcoming Dodge, Ram, and Jeep Trucks and SUVs
Grand Cherokee, Dodge Durango, Wagoneer
The Wagoneer, a luxury seven-seater positioned above the Grand Cherokee (Durango is currently $2,000 more at the base level), is still planned for the time when a minivan-based crossover joins the Dodge lineup, replacing the Caravan; the Durango name may be used on the crossover instead of Caravan.
One correspondent reported: “Grand Wagoneer looks just like the classic Wagoneer with a bit of Durango styling.” Wagoneer has been all but confirmed, and should have a longer body, like Durango, but with the Jeep suspension setup rather than Durango’s on-road-biased system.
A redesigned Grand Cherokee is due around 2017, but given the current model’s success, it may be another extensive refresh.
Ram vans (commercial vans)
Ram Pickups and Chassis Cabs
Ram 1500 is set for a refresh in 2017, leaving the basic 2009 design to soldier on through 2021. The refresh is expected to be fenders-forward (except a new tailgate) and interior, with aerodynamic changes.
oh20 wrote: “Dodge is currently working on a plan that would make the Ram 4500 and 5500 chassis cabs available to all Ram dealers.”
The Long Hauler concept used a Kelderman air suspension in front and rear, for higher capacity with a smoother ride; that model was based on the Ram 5500, which has a leaf-spring rear suspension. Here’s the full Long Hauler story and status update (as part of a January 2014 interview).
Commercial heavy-duty trucks (e.g. tractors, class 7-8) might be planned, though they could be Ivecos, and aren't expected until 2015 at the earliest. Update: According to Fred Diaz, these were discussed, but leaders decided that they did not know the market well enough, and decided to wait until the end of the Five Year Plan and then to reconsider it. Push that date back a few years.
The Gladiator concept truck was driven on-stage at a 2010 dealer meeting, with an indication that something like it might be made. Sergio Marchionne later said it would probably be a Wrangler-based vehicle with a short bed. A Mopar pickup kit followed, then a September 2011 statement that a Jeep pickup is still a few years out. It now appears to be slated for 2016-2017, along with the new Wrangler itself.
Two new pickups have been rumored but neither appears to be on the way. One is a Ram 50-sized compact powered by the Tiger Shark four cylinder, due for Mexican production so they can sell it all over North and South America without duties — both the South American and North American free trade zones include Mexico. This appears to have been replaced by a bigger Fiat Strada pickup and may not appear in the US at all.
The European-oriented, metric-ton pickup has been dropped, most likely partly due to increased competition from both Ford and GM. Instead, Fiat is likely to make do with an enhanced Strada pickup line in Latin America and Europe; it’s possible that a version of the Strada may be adapted for Ram in North America.
There are still two big questions on the Ram product plan (shown below), the 2015 and 2016 launches. The need for, and viability of, an Iveco Daily-based big van are both questionable, given the presence of established competitors (Mercedes, Ford, and Nissan) in that space, and the capabilities of the Ram ProMaster.
We are still providing some renderings based on earlier plans. Suzq044 has provided two renderings showing possible design directions, along with the one above from JackRatchett. JackRatchett was basing his off statements that a minivan-based truck would be made at Windsor; this now appears to be unlikely, though it’s still possible that the forthcoming pickup will come from the new minivan platform.
The rendering above shows a truck made on its own platform; the one below, a modification of the Dodge Charger to provide an El Camino/Ranchero/Rampage style pickup/car. The variety here may indicate that we do not know exactly what Ram is going to do, and that would be a valid conclusion.
Ram 1500 pickup trucks, SRT10
See the Ram 1500 page. As for another SRT10 Ram, Ralph Gilles said in May 2012, “We'll never put an SRT engine just randomly in any car... just never, that's just not what you do with a performance engine. ... [When John McElroy asked about the Ram V10:] We did look at it, to be honest with you...in the past... but, the original short wheelbase V10 truck was an amazing machine... When we went to four doors we ruined the formula. ...I vowed, we will never do that again.”
A two-door Ram with the Viper V10 is possible, but seems unlikely in the foreseeable future, and would not arrive until 2016 at the earliest.
Jeep Wrangler, Jeep Scrambler / Gladiator
A US diesel is being looked at; one would expect a four-cylinder VM diesel similar to those used in European Wranglers for decades now, but the 3-liter V6 is not out of the question. An updated transfer case may appear, possibly bringing back a full-time setting for broader market appeal. Sheet metal changes will improve aerodynamics (strong chance of major windshield and front end redesign). There is a chance of some sort of “stripped” model as the production line can now apply bedliner to tubs during assembly. Better quality is also expected.
Word from within Chrysler suggests that the Jeep Wrangler plant in Toledo, Ohio, is being examined for expansion and variants including a factory pickup and vehicles closer to the original Peeps. Insiders told Allpar that the plant was built without expansion in mind but could be reconfigured; this is presumably one of the forces behind trying to use an independent suspension, since those can be brought in as modules, saving space.
CUSW, C-EVO, D crossovers
B-SUV: Jeep Renegade
The small Jeep Renegade, code-named BU and based on a spur of the 500X, has been developed for worldwide sale. The new vehicle has been delayed as Jeep capability required many changes from the Fiat platform and architecture, according to a leader of Chrysler’s India engineering center in Chennai (established before Fiat). Engineering was done in Auburn Hills, Italy, and India.
Jeep Patriot / Jeep Compass
For the current model: as predicted by oh2o, the Compass and Patriot switched to a normal six-speed automatic, jettisoning the Nissan CVT2 except on Trail Rated models. Production was set to end mid-2014 but may continue longer.
As for their replacements:
redriderbob, historically a good source, wrote: “Jeep engineers are working closely with Fiat engineers on this project. We will more likely see a diesel version of the replacement Compass/Patriot here in the US and Canada. They are also making sure this new Jeep is more capable then the ones it replaces.”
It appears Chrysler’s going to go with the Compass name instead of Patriot. There are two sets of insider comments, one saying it would “look very much like the current Patriot in shape and size but mixed just slightly with the soft lines of the old Jeep Renegade and Willys2 concepts” and the other saying it looks like an Alfa Romeo Giulietta with a Grand Cherokee/Compass front clip.
The Compass/Patriot successor and an Alfa Romeo CUV are to be closely related and all are built on CUSW, the same platform as the Dodge Dart, as is Liberty. The “Compatriot” would likely be front wheel drive and all wheel drive, lighter in weight and duty cycle than Liberty, and smaller — C class versus D class.
The Maserati Levante crossover is due soon; it uses Maserati and modified VM diesel engines, based on the modified-LX chassis and platform used in Ghibli, and will be built in Italy.