Comments on: HHR and PT: the real deal http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/ Chrysler, car, and other discussions by Allpar contributors Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:06:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Dave http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-57830 Dave Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:08:00 +0000 http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/#comment-57830 Sounds like the PT must have gone downhill in its last few months. My 2003 GT model never got lower than 20 mpg and corners quite well - much better than my Shadow used to. No squeaks or rattles, no problems. I'm surprised you only got 21-22 mpg in the Shadow. Sounds like the PT must have gone downhill in its last few months. My 2003 GT model never got lower than 20 mpg and corners quite well - much better than my Shadow used to. No squeaks or rattles, no problems. I’m surprised you only got 21-22 mpg in the Shadow.

]]> By: Aloha (but not goodbye), PT Cruiser http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-57828 Aloha (but not goodbye), PT Cruiser Wed, 31 Oct 2007 23:05:29 +0000 http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/#comment-57828 My apologies to any and all PT Cruiser fans in Allpar land, but I’m glad the PT has been dropped by the Chrysler board. I ordered a PT Cruiser from the local Chrysler dealer in March 2003 (and didn’t take delivery until late summer!), and after driving it for a week, my spouse said to me “you got rid of the Dodge Shadow for THIS????” What can I say about the Chrysler PT? Sloth-like acceleration, sluggish handling (my Dakota Quad-Cab handles better), deplorable gas mileage (about 16 MPG-if I’m lucky!), a cheap-looking and poorly-fitted interior, and constant rattles and squeaks from the doors and body-work. A friend of mine rented a PT last month and told me “that PT was a piece of crap-just like your car….” In 1992 I bought a Dodge Shadow (new) from the dealer, and it was a SUPERIOR car compared to the PT (and the Shadow was supposedly an “econobox”). The fit and finish was superb, and the 2.5 liter engine was very dependable……even after 170K miles, I still managed 21-22 MPG! And unlike my Dodge Shadow, I don’t think I’ll miss the PT Cruiser once I get rid of it…… For the record, I’ve been a proud MOPAR owner since I bought my first car back in 1978 (’74 Plymouth Duster). During the past 29 years, I’ve purchased many Dodge/Plymouth products, some used, but mainly new vehicles, but I’m about ready to write off Chrysler and purchase a GM or Toyota for my child…..the Chrysler I admired and respected is long-gone, and I don’t think it’ll ever come back. My apologies to any and all PT Cruiser fans in Allpar land, but I’m glad the PT has been dropped by the Chrysler board. I ordered a PT Cruiser from the local Chrysler dealer in March 2003 (and didn’t take delivery until late summer!), and after driving it for a week, my spouse said to me “you got rid of the Dodge Shadow for THIS????”

What can I say about the Chrysler PT? Sloth-like acceleration, sluggish handling (my Dakota Quad-Cab handles better), deplorable gas mileage (about 16 MPG-if I’m lucky!), a cheap-looking and poorly-fitted interior, and constant rattles and squeaks from the doors and body-work. A friend of mine rented a PT last month and told me “that PT was a piece of crap-just like your car….”

In 1992 I bought a Dodge Shadow (new) from the dealer, and it was a SUPERIOR car compared to the PT (and the Shadow was supposedly an “econobox”). The fit and finish was superb, and the 2.5 liter engine was very dependable……even after 170K miles, I still managed 21-22 MPG! And unlike my Dodge Shadow, I don’t think I’ll miss the PT Cruiser once I get rid of it……

For the record, I’ve been a proud MOPAR owner since I bought my first car back in 1978 (’74 Plymouth Duster). During the past 29 years, I’ve purchased many Dodge/Plymouth products, some used, but mainly new vehicles, but I’m about ready to write off Chrysler and purchase a GM or Toyota for my child…..the Chrysler I admired and respected is long-gone, and I don’t think it’ll ever come back.

]]> By: Paul http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-50946 Paul Sun, 26 Aug 2007 22:30:17 +0000 http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/#comment-50946 The PT has gone on way too long, it either needs to be restyled or cancelled. Almost everyone I talk to dislikes not only the PT but the HHR as well. It is a niche vehicle and it is very funny how GM decided to copy the PT 4-5 years after its introduction. GM is very good at coming late to the party as a substandard vehicle (GM vans, Trailblazer anyone?) Chrysler needs to get rid of the PT and Caliber and bring us an actual sedan and coupe and for crying out loud fire the guy who has been designing the interiors. The PT has gone on way too long, it either needs to be restyled or cancelled. Almost everyone I talk to dislikes not only the PT but the HHR as well. It is a niche vehicle and it is very funny how GM decided to copy the PT 4-5 years after its introduction. GM is very good at coming late to the party as a substandard vehicle (GM vans, Trailblazer anyone?) Chrysler needs to get rid of the PT and Caliber and bring us an actual sedan and coupe and for crying out loud fire the guy who has been designing the interiors.

]]> By: Axel http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/comment-page-1/#comment-50887 Axel Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:57:08 +0000 http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2007/08/19/hhr-and-pt-the-real-deal/#comment-50887 I'd love to see Cerberus revive the old California Cruiser concept that Chrysler showed off back in '02-'03. Exactly what a PT *should* look like, style-wise. I'm sure it'd be possible to modify the design to fit the Dodge Journey/JC49 platform. If they went that route, I'd put in a pre-order tomorrow. It'd be an HHR killer for sure, especially if they made a GT model. I’d love to see Cerberus revive the old California Cruiser concept that Chrysler showed off back in ‘02-’03.
Exactly what a PT *should* look like, style-wise.
I’m sure it’d be possible to modify the design to fit the Dodge Journey/JC49 platform.
If they went that route, I’d put in a pre-order tomorrow. It’d be an HHR killer for sure, especially if they made a GT model.

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