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	<title>Comments on: Chrysler has more for GM than minivans and Jeeps</title>
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		<title>By: jecst45</title>
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		<dc:creator>jecst45</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 00:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joining with Nissan/Renault is Chrysler&#039;s and the auto enthusiast&#039;s best option.  It will be bad for Chrysler and GM to merge as direct competitors.  Not to mention all the jobs lost.  They have nothing historically in common.  And yes, I know about AM General and AMC.  

Removing competition will not promote the improvement of uniquely &quot;American&quot; vehicles. It will dilute each company&#039;s brands. For instance, the Challenger and Camaro will likely evolve into clones.  Chevy LS V8&#039;s (if any) will be used across the board from Chargers to Pontiacs.  Mopar will cease to exist. 

Chrysler would be far better aligned with Nissan and Renault.  Chrysler has developed promising joint projects with Nissan and has a history with Renault via AMC/Eagle.  With Nissan/Renault specializing in volume and smaller vehicles; Chrysler can reclaim its inspired designs and improve on the traditional American vehicle, fuel efficient Hemis and all.  This could also help with marketing and sales internationally such as Asia and Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joining with Nissan/Renault is Chrysler&#8217;s and the auto enthusiast&#8217;s best option.  It will be bad for Chrysler and GM to merge as direct competitors.  Not to mention all the jobs lost.  They have nothing historically in common.  And yes, I know about AM General and AMC.  </p>
<p>Removing competition will not promote the improvement of uniquely &#8220;American&#8221; vehicles. It will dilute each company&#8217;s brands. For instance, the <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html" >Challenger</a> and Camaro will likely evolve into clones.  Chevy LS V8&#8217;s (if any) will be used across the board from Chargers to Pontiacs.  Mopar will cease to exist. </p>
<p>Chrysler would be far better aligned with Nissan and Renault.  Chrysler has developed promising joint projects with Nissan and has a history with Renault via AMC/Eagle.  With Nissan/Renault specializing in volume and smaller vehicles; Chrysler can reclaim its inspired designs and improve on the traditional American vehicle, fuel efficient Hemis and all.  This could also help with marketing and sales internationally such as Asia and Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: George Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two reasons why US auto makers are in trouble.(1)Idiots that still believe foreign vehicles are better.(2)By letting a foreign company buy Chrysler. Its a funny old world when the USA and the vehicle builders that won WW2 are being outsold and companies being bought by those that lost the war. Hell, was it the USA that rebuilt those countries?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two reasons why US auto makers are in trouble.(1)Idiots that still believe foreign vehicles are better.(2)By letting a foreign company buy Chrysler. Its a funny old world when the USA and the vehicle builders that won WW2 are being outsold and companies being bought by those that lost the war. Hell, was it the USA that rebuilt those countries?</p>
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		<title>By: HEMIhead</title>
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		<dc:creator>HEMIhead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I guess this is it for Chrysler. Your gonna witness the end of a great legacy here
folks. Years of people buying foriegn products have finally totally destroyed America.
Once the market is cleared of American companies (which will eventually happen), then you&#039;ll have
to deal with the cheapest junk money can buy. Quality is great now, wait until you have no choice,
then you&#039;ll see how cars can be made leaner and cheaper with the profits going back to foriegn
countries. A person once said, &quot;What the Japanese couldn&#039;t do to us in the war, they&#039;ll do to us in the economy.&quot; (can&#039;t remeber who said that? Anyone remeber?)I&#039;ve always bought North American products and tried as much as possible to convince others to do it, but it was a hard fight. People just want their &quot;Bling&quot; these days, and they don&#039;t care who they put out of work to do it.

I just want to say to all those Chrysler employees, from present to past, THANK YOU! from a very big Chrysler enthusiast and supporter. Thank you for giving me and countless others a lifetime of excitement and pride from your many products. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, for all the blood, sweat, and tears gone into research, development, and manufacturing. Thank you to everyone on the production lines who were trying to make a living for their families. God Bless You All!

I find it very hard to watch things go this way. I have a 2 year old, and a 1 month old son.
I was hoping that as they grew older, we would have a father to son relationship that would include
many chats and enthusiasim for this brand, and I was working on getting a new challenger or an older Mopar to keep for them so we could have fun with it and admire how hard work from everday people could create such a wonderfull piece of glory.

Lets take a look back at some of the great &quot;talk&quot; from good old Chrysler:

HEMI, Max Wedge, RamCharger, FireDome, Red Ram, Super Stock II, TNT, Super Commando, Magnum,
RoadRunner Engine, Super Slant Six, 340 wedge, six pak, +6, sure grip, track pac, air grabber, shaker,pistol grip, slap stick, rallye dash, T/A, AAR, GTX, Duster, Demon, &#039;Cuda, Dart, Challenger, Super bee, Coronet, Valiant, Roadrunner, Charger, 300H, Fury, Savoy, Scamp, Twister, Swinger, Superbird, Daytona, magnum 500, rallye wheels, Tuff steering wheel, sublime, TorRed, Hemi Orange, Plum Crazy, Lemon Twist, Panther Pink, B5 Blue, etc.............................................

You show me another company who could even come close to matching this excitement. When I was a kid, the &quot;WORDS&quot; such as listed above used to drive me out of my mind thinking about them. 
It was a B-L-A-S-T!

Take Care Chrysler, and I Thank You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I guess this is it for Chrysler. Your gonna witness the end of a great legacy here<br />
folks. Years of people buying foriegn products have finally totally destroyed America.<br />
Once the market is cleared of American companies (which will eventually happen), then you&#8217;ll have<br />
to deal with the cheapest junk money can buy. Quality is great now, wait until you have no choice,<br />
then you&#8217;ll see how cars can be made leaner and cheaper with the profits going back to foriegn<br />
countries. A person once said, &#8220;What the Japanese couldn&#8217;t do to us in the war, they&#8217;ll do to us in the economy.&#8221; (can&#8217;t remeber who said that? Anyone remeber?)I&#8217;ve always bought North American products and tried as much as possible to convince others to do it, but it was a hard fight. People just want their &#8220;Bling&#8221; these days, and they don&#8217;t care who they put out of work to do it.</p>
<p>I just want to say to all those Chrysler employees, from present to past, THANK YOU! from a very big Chrysler enthusiast and supporter. Thank you for giving me and countless others a lifetime of excitement and pride from your many products. Thank you from the bottom of my heart, for all the blood, sweat, and tears gone into research, development, and manufacturing. Thank you to everyone on the production lines who were trying to make a living for their families. God Bless You All!</p>
<p>I find it very hard to watch things go this way. I have a 2 year old, and a 1 month old son.<br />
I was hoping that as they grew older, we would have a father to son relationship that would include<br />
many chats and enthusiasim for this brand, and I was working on getting a new <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html" >challenger</a> or an older Mopar to keep for them so we could have fun with it and admire how hard work from everday people could create such a wonderfull piece of glory.</p>
<p>Lets take a look back at some of the great &#8220;talk&#8221; from good old Chrysler:</p>
<p>HEMI, Max Wedge, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/trucks/ramcharger.html" >RamCharger</a>, FireDome, Red Ram, Super Stock II, TNT, Super Commando, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/lx/magnum-dodge.html" >Magnum</a>,<br />
RoadRunner Engine, Super Slant Six, 340 wedge, six pak, +6, sure grip, track pac, air grabber, shaker,pistol grip, slap stick, rallye dash, T/A, AAR, GTX, <a href="http://www.valiant.org/duster.html" target='_blank'>Duster</a>, Demon, &#8216;<a href="http://www.allpar.com/model/cuda.html" >Cuda</a>, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/dart.html" >Dart</a>, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/challenger.html" >Challenger</a>, Super bee, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/coronet.html" >Coronet</a>, <a href="http://www.valiant.org/" target='_blank'>Valiant</a>, Roadrunner, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/model/charger.html" >Charger</a>, 300H, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/model/fury.html" >Fury</a>, Savoy, Scamp, Twister, Swinger, Superbird, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/model/daytona.html" >Daytona</a>, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/lx/magnum-dodge.html" >magnum</a> 500, rallye wheels, Tuff steering wheel, sublime, TorRed, Hemi Orange, Plum Crazy, Lemon Twist, Panther Pink, B5 Blue, etc&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>You show me another company who could even come close to matching this excitement. When I was a kid, the &#8220;WORDS&#8221; such as listed above used to drive me out of my mind thinking about them.<br />
It was a B-L-A-S-T!</p>
<p>Take Care Chrysler, and I Thank You.</p>
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