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	<title>Comments on: Auto execs shoot their companies in the foot</title>
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		<title>By: Bob Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Which brings another suggestion: a ban on political contributions by automakers, auto executives, and the UAW and its executives, while the loans are in effect.&quot;

Interesting if pointless. They don&#039;t have much pull either way do they? It is a waste of good dollars, though. 

What the auto companies need to do is communicate our need for them. Most folks are worried about their job and their lives. Bailout money for the auto companies looks so much to many people like another lousy bailout for an industry that wants to die and is stopped from being able to through government intervention. Never mind that the banks are getting 28 times that amount and abusing it. Never mind that these companies support a hefty chunk of the economy of the mid-west and then some. It&#039;s another bailout of an industry that can&#039;t cut it in the real world. Economic darwinism is ingrained into the American psyche like nothing else and for those of conservative leanings even more so. 

For those so inclined I have a simple question: What would Germany do if Daimler and VW were in a similar predicament? How about Toyota, Honda and the Japanese government? Korea let a few auto companies live and let some die because there were too many chasing too few dollars. Is that where we stand? If we let these companies die as they are for whatever reason then what industry will take up the slack? It&#039;s not like Microsoft, Boeing or Intel is going to hire these auto workers. 

Once these companies are gone they are not coming back. The capitol and power of these companies is on the shop floors and engineering design offices. The point has been made that it isn&#039;t in the executive suite. I&#039;m sure I&#039;d see some of them come into the aerospace field and would welcome them but wouldn&#039;t it make more sense to keep them at work?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Which brings another suggestion: a ban on political contributions by automakers, auto executives, and the UAW and its executives, while the loans are in effect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Interesting if pointless. They don&#8217;t have much pull either way do they? It is a waste of good dollars, though. </p>
<p>What the auto companies need to do is communicate our need for them. Most folks are worried about their job and their lives. Bailout money for the auto companies looks so much to many people like another lousy bailout for an industry that wants to die and is stopped from being able to through government intervention. Never mind that the banks are getting 28 times that amount and abusing it. Never mind that these companies support a hefty chunk of the economy of the mid-west and then some. It&#8217;s another bailout of an industry that can&#8217;t cut it in the real world. Economic darwinism is ingrained into the American psyche like nothing else and for those of conservative leanings even more so. </p>
<p>For those so inclined I have a simple question: What would Germany do if Daimler and VW were in a similar predicament? How about Toyota, Honda and the Japanese government? Korea let a few auto companies live and let some die because there were too many chasing too few dollars. Is that where we stand? If we let these companies die as they are for whatever reason then what industry will take up the slack? It&#8217;s not like Microsoft, Boeing or Intel is going to hire these auto workers. </p>
<p>Once these companies are gone they are not coming back. The capitol and power of these companies is on the shop floors and engineering design offices. The point has been made that it isn&#8217;t in the executive suite. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;d see some of them come into the aerospace field and would welcome them but wouldn&#8217;t it make more sense to keep them at work?</p>
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		<title>By: DaveAdmin</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it&#039;s almost as though they thought their political contributions would have bought them some traction. The automakers&#039; contributions and those of their executives got them NOTHING. 

Which brings another suggestion: a ban on political contributions by automakers, auto executives, and the UAW and its executives, while the loans are in effect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s almost as though they thought their political contributions would have bought them some traction. The automakers&#8217; contributions and those of their executives got them NOTHING. </p>
<p>Which brings another suggestion: a ban on political contributions by automakers, auto executives, and the UAW and its executives, while the loans are in effect.</p>
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		<title>By: Arthur</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is to bad that these three executives did not at least &quot;jet pool&quot; to Washington.  Having one jet carrying these three would have been enough.  As for Nardelli, he should have driven in to Washington with the Electric Town &amp; Country Van, (instead of sending it to the Los Angeles Car Show), and said this is what I am here fighting for. Everybody is trying to kill Chrysler off, and he could have shown that Chrysler is very much a viable entity, instead of some politican saying Chrysler is on life support now.  I wish these executives would show a bit more &quot;smarts&quot; in the operation and survival of their companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is to bad that these three executives did not at least &#8220;jet pool&#8221; to Washington.  Having one jet carrying these three would have been enough.  As for Nardelli, he should have driven in to Washington with the Electric Town &amp; Country Van, (instead of sending it to the Los Angeles Car Show), and said this is what I am here fighting for. Everybody is trying to kill Chrysler off, and he could have shown that Chrysler is very much a viable entity, instead of some politican saying Chrysler is on life support now.  I wish these executives would show a bit more &#8220;smarts&#8221; in the operation and survival of their companies.</p>
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