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	<title>Comments on: The midsized dilemma: fixing the Avenger and Sebring</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 18:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I currently drive a 2008 Avenger R/T AWD ~150 miles a day to work and back.  I like the car but I think Chrysler needs to lower it by ~1 to 2 inches too give it a better stance.  The flares on the rear quarter panels also need flattened out.  After 1 year of driving, the flare on the rear doors has been blasted by debris leaving it pitted.  The interior is okay but they need to remove all the chrome, especially around the shifter.  The bottoms of the front seats on the cloth interiors also need flattened out a bit.  The engine runs great and I get between 25 to 27 on the highway.  It also handles very well in snow, ice, and heavy rain.  

I say keep the Avenger name because improving the car and keeping it would show the media that Chrysler is serious about making a new image for themselves.

I hope Chrysler pulls through.  I was planning on getting a Charger some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I currently drive a 2008 <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html" >Avenger</a> R/T AWD ~150 miles a day to work and back.  I like the car but I think Chrysler needs to lower it by ~1 to 2 inches too give it a better stance.  The flares on the rear quarter panels also need flattened out.  After 1 year of driving, the flare on the rear doors has been blasted by debris leaving it pitted.  The interior is okay but they need to remove all the chrome, especially around the shifter.  The bottoms of the front seats on the cloth interiors also need flattened out a bit.  The engine runs great and I get between 25 to 27 on the highway.  It also handles very well in snow, ice, and heavy rain.  </p>
<p>I say keep the <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html" >Avenger</a> name because improving the car and keeping it would show the media that Chrysler is serious about making a new image for themselves.</p>
<p>I hope Chrysler pulls through.  I was planning on getting a <a href="http://www.allpar.com/model/charger.html" >Charger</a> some day.
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		<title>By: Bill Sample</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Sample</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My suggestions - 
If there will be a substantial reskin and upgrade of the Sebring, how about 100 C for a name - a name that could be kept for a future model of that size that would work right in the 300C/200C range.
I don&#039;t think the Avenger name is poison - save Dart for a smaller upcoming Dodge model.
100 C - Pentastar V6, Avenger 4 or Pentastar V6 as an option.  6-M in the 4 as well as an upgraded automatic.
Keep both the Chrysler and Dodge models but make them more distinctive, like the difference between various Honda/Acura, VW/Audi etc nameplated but similar models.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My suggestions &#8211;<br />
If there will be a substantial reskin and upgrade of the Sebring, how about 100 C for a name &#8211; a name that could be kept for a future model of that size that would work right in the <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/300c-chrysler.html" >300C</a>/200C range.<br />
I don&#8217;t think the <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html" >Avenger</a> name is poison &#8211; save <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/dart.html" >Dart</a> for a smaller upcoming Dodge model.<br />
100 C &#8211; Pentastar V6, <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html" >Avenger</a> 4 or Pentastar V6 as an option.  6-M in the 4 as well as an upgraded automatic.<br />
Keep both the Chrysler and Dodge models but make them more distinctive, like the difference between various Honda/Acura, VW/Audi etc nameplated but similar models.</p>
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		<title>By: Lane</title>
		<link>http://www.allpar.com/weblogs/2009/05/07/quote-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-77477</link>
		<dc:creator>Lane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 17:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or if you really want to reset the brand naming convention, use a European-like number scheme, with one digit the &quot;platform&quot;, and two or three the &quot;detailed descriptor&quot;, or just use the engine displacement alone...think BMW (320 = 3series with a 2 liter engine, as an example) or some of the Simcas (1000 = 1 liter engine).  Sort of highlights the engineering side of the equation vice sales and marketing.  Ma MoPar used a flavor of this (for the trim level if I remember correctly) in the 60&#039;s along with the car name (ex: 1963 Dodge Dart 270, still the best 4-door family car I&#039;ve ever driven to this day).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or if you really want to reset the brand naming convention, use a European-like number scheme, with one digit the &#8220;platform&#8221;, and two or three the &#8220;detailed descriptor&#8221;, or just use the engine displacement alone&#8230;think BMW (320 = 3series with a 2 liter engine, as an example) or some of the Simcas (1000 = 1 liter engine).  Sort of highlights the engineering side of the equation vice sales and marketing.  Ma MoPar used a flavor of this (for the trim level if I remember correctly) in the 60&#8242;s along with the car name (ex: 1963 Dodge <a href="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/dart.html" >Dart</a> 270, still the best 4-door family car I&#8217;ve ever driven to this day).</p>
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