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2015 Ram 3500 Front Tire Wear Issue

Discussion in 'Ram, pickups, commercial trucks' started by JRS200x, Apr 18, 2017.

  1. JRS200x

    JRS200x CJDR + FIAT SALES PERSON
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    I've got a customer of mine who purchase a 2015 Ram 3500 Dually 4x4 Laramie, who has been having an issue basically since he purchased it that my wonderful service department can not figure out. Basically the front passenger tire keeps wearing the outside of the tire bald. He has 62,000 miles on the truck and is looking at putting his 6th front tire on the truck in that time.

    Its always the same tire, and the wear is always the same, its the outside of the front passenger tire that goes bald.

    We've checked the alignment multiple times and haven't found anything wrong, we've sent it to a truck shop, they can't find anything wrong....

    Not sure if anyone had heard of this issue, or knows of a fix for it etc. Chrysler isn't being much help, they offered to pay for 1 set of tires early on, but that's been about it.

    HELP!
     
  2. Shane Estabrooks

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    Was this truck in for it's recall work for the steering area... R45 I think was the recall.. it may be that this truck came from the factory with the issue fixed... or what I'm thinking is it was missed and could be the issue.
     
  3. bguy

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    It could be an incorrect replacement part causing out of alignment during turns. Have the alignment shop check for excessive turn run out.
     
  4. ImperialCrown

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    Camber and toe are both critical tire wear angles. Hard left hand turn cornering will cause right-outer edge tire wear. Tires should be rotated every other oil change.
    There is a 'toe-out on turns' angle that can be checked. If it is out of spec, it may be from worn or bent front end parts.
    Excessive toe-in will wear the outer tire edges rapidly. Excessive positive camber will also wear the outer edges rapidly.
     
  5. pt006

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    Since it's been this way from new, and since the alignment has been checked several times, I'd suspect a wrong or bent spindle to tie rod end geometry problem. Or a right side housing tube that is rotated clockwise too much [from the factory]. This would cause the wheel to tilt inward on sharp turns and grind off the outer edge of the tire.

    This should have been fixed by the dealership, even if they had to install a new complete front axle assy.
     
  6. truckman323

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    Were you able to determine a fix?? I have a 2015 3500 doing the exact same thing. Thanks!
     
  7. Paul Muldowney

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    I have the same problem - showed up at 1400 miles, rotate every 1400 for outer wear. Chrysler put an offset ball joint rt. frt. (within specs) after 1st setting toe, "what about the pull and steering wheel off center?" I allow tire to wear 2000 miles and get diagonal wear and cupping in right front only. Chrysler says it's normal tire wear for dually. Service manager went so far to tell me that he called his buddy at Ford and was told they don't have a tire wear issue. I don't either on my 2000 F350 with 300K on it and the front end feels tight!
    I discovered that the right front spring is 1" lower than the left side - was told it's within tolerance. Left rear box corner raises almost 2" higher than right rear.
    Slight down hill, coming off local bridge deck from concrete to asphalt (loading front end) vehicle shimmy's (30 to 50 mph) every time. Doesn't do it up hill.
    I've driven other "new" 3500 and they feel "tight". My right front feels loose like tie rod end. I read with interest about the spindle. Having worked Chrysler service years ago I leaned toward "hub" like on an older vehicle.
    When I talked to selling dealer (700 they say, as I knew the ride height needed addressed first. Because on sweeping turns (not hard turns) left, rt. frt wobbles. Not rt sweeping highway speed turns. No tire balance issues.
    I have tested on 2 lane road, putting left front near white line in (like you were passing). I then turn around and put the right side along that same path - right side is rough, left side you don't feel it. Which could be tie rod end.
    Since the vehicle is so heavy, wouldn't the spring have to be "equal" in length to provide similar support? It's easiest to "see", but not a spindle that could have been bent before I bought it at 400 miles.
     
  8. ka9yhd

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    For a vehicle pulling to one side, I would check it on a concrete road and not on Asphalt. Asphalt is softer and gets rutted sooner.

    A friend worked at a Caddy dealer and people would bring their cars in claiming the cars pulls to one side or the other. So he goes on a road test with them on a concrete road. The car is going down the road straight and with his hands off the steering wheel.
     
  9. ImperialCrown

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    Most roads are 'crowned' for water drainage to the sides of the road. On a road test it is important to test for pull or lead conditions by driving in one direction, then turn around and drive the other direction.
    A good front end man always pre-inspects and road tests before and after. The front end machine must be kept accurate and the ramp 'tables' that the wheels sit on must be free to move. Jounce the front and rear to have the suspension settle before taking readings.
    Toe can cause edge-wear and really not cause a pull. Tires can cause pull and a right/left swap can either neutralize a pull or cause a pull in the other direction.
     
  10. MwebNavy

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    I currently have a Ram 3500 dually with only 28,000 miles, maintained by the book and I’ve had three right (passenger front) tire blowouts..the belts get ripped from the tires and violently shakes the whole front end. I’ve had a total of 14 tires on this truck and I’m currently sitting in the dealer service center demanding it be fixed!
    There is a serious defect in these vehicles and it needs to be addressed. I’ve had two independent front end alignment specialists tell me that my camber is 0.75 off, but since these trucks have no adjustable ball joints anymore, then they should be replaced with new aftermarket ones. I’m still in warranty and Dodge (Cass Burch Valdosta Ga.) should fix it.
    I just get circle jerked...and it’s really pi**ing me off!
     
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    I currently have a Ram 3500 dually with only 28,000 miles, maintained by the book and I’ve had three right (passenger front) tire blowouts..the belts get ripped from the tires and violently shakes the whole front end. I’ve had a total of 14 tires on this truck and I’m currently sitting in the dealer service center demanding it be fixed!
    There is a serious defect in these vehicles and it needs to be addressed. I’ve had two independent front end alignment specialists tell me that my camber is 0.75 off, but since these trucks have no adjustable ball joints anymore, then they should be replaced with new aftermarket ones. I’m still in warranty and Dodge (Cass Burch Valdosta Ga.) should fix it.
    I just get circle jerked...and it’s really pi**ing me off!
    Mine showed up at almost the same mileage. 28,000 now and I’m still fighting it. Should have used the lemon law on this and trusted the dealer. What a mistake!
     
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