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Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by Dave Z, Aug 11, 2017.
Ram ups the ante for towing, torque
Now that is really impressive (towing 30K).
Poor Ford. They had the title for one year and Ram be like, "Uh, yeah, we'll take that back now, thank you very much."
Nice increase in torque, but the last few power bumps haven't any increase in power. The Ram is around ~60HP behind the competition, which does make a difference in acceleration and trying to charge up mountain at full throttle. At 3000 RPM, the Ram is down to ~650 lb-ft, while the competition is around 750. The extra low-end torque is nice when on rolling hills, because it reduces the need to downshift.
This is a good comparison of the 1 Ton class...
Ram Truck Reveals the Most Powerful Pickup - 2018 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Launches with Chart-topping Capabilities: Highest Available Fifth-wheel Towing and Record- Setting 930 lb.-ft. of Torque
Ram Heavy Duty with Cummins 6.7-liter diesel brings total torque to 930 lb.-ft., highest rating ever for a pickup
30,000-lb. fifth-wheel towing capacity with newly engineered hitch design
Ram 3500 upgrades open the gateway for heavy trailer manufacturers and deliver higher capabilities previously only available on Class 4 and 5 trucks
The first 2018 Ram Heavy Duty pickup trucks begin rolling off the production line this week
August 11, 2017 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - Ram takes heavy-duty towing and hauling seriously. With the start of 2018 model-year production, the Ram 3500 will offer a segment-dominating 930 lb.-ft. of torque and the exclusive ability to tow 30,000 lbs. with a fifth-wheel hitch.
"Ram maintains capability leadership by delivering the highest-ever torque rating for a pickup truck and heaviest fifth-wheel trailer towing capacity," said Mike Manley, Head of Jeep and Ram Brand. "We understand the attributes most important to our customers within the heavy-duty segment; they demand hard-working, long-lasting capability.”
Working closely with Cummins, the 2018 diesel improvements include higher boost limits through a variable geometry turbo and flow rate increases through the fuel delivery system, enabling the 6.7-liter I-6 to produce an additional 30 lb.-ft. of torque. This improvement ranks the Cummins engine ahead of the competition with 930 total lb.-ft. of torque, while maintaining the diesel’s hallmark durability and efficiency.
The 30,000-lb. fifth-wheel towing uprating is made possible by an in-house hitch design from Ram Engineering. The upgraded capability allows the Ram 3500 to haul the heaviest travel trailers in the industry. Unlike the competition, Ram’s new hitch will allow customers to move away from Class 4 and 5 trucks to haul trailers that would have otherwise been limited to 24,000 lbs.
Mopar Part number: 82215769
Also available as an upfit package for the Ram 3500.
Ram 3500 Heavy Duty maximum gooseneck and conventional hitch maximum trailer weight ratings for 2018 are 31,210 lbs and 20,000 lbs., respectively.
2018 Ram Heavy Duty pickup trucks will be available in dealerships in August.
About Ram Truck Brand
Since its launch as a stand-alone division in 2009, the Ram Truck brand has steadily emerged as an industry leader with America’s longest-lasting line of pickups.
Creating a distinct identity for Ram trucks has allowed the brand to concentrate on core customers and the features they find valuable. Whether focusing on a family that uses a Ram 1500 day-in and day-out, a hard-working Ram 3500 Heavy Duty owner or a business that depends on its Ram ProMaster commercial van every day for deliveries, Ram has the truck market covered.
In order to be the best, it takes a commitment to innovation, capability, efficiency and durability. Ram Truck invests substantially in its products, infusing them with great looks, refined interiors, durable engines and exclusive features that further enhance their capabilities.
Ram continues to beat the competition in the most sought-after titles:
Longest-lasting line of pickups
Highest owner loyalty of any half-ton pickup
Best-in-class ride and handling with exclusive link coil rear and auto-level air suspensions
Best-in-class fuel economy and longest range with exclusive EcoDiesel – 29 mpg and 754 miles with Ram 1500
Best-in-class gas towing – 16,320 pounds with Ram 2500
Highest snow plow rating – Ram 2500 and 3500
Most interior space with Ram Mega Cab
Most capable full-size off-road pickup – Ram Power Wagon
Truck customers, from half-ton to commercial, have a demanding range of needs and require their vehicles to provide high levels of capability. Ram trucks are designed to deliver a total package.
I'm confused, is this a different truck than the ones we see covered on the front end? If not, why were they covering it?
Do they make 30,000lb fifth wheel trailers?
Agreed. I heard the 2019 mules are running around with hood scoops though similar to the new Chevy's? If that's the case, I'm going to assume over 400 HP and 1000 ft/lbs torque.
The ones we see covered are the DT, the upcoming new generation 1500's. The heavy duties (2500+)aren't getting theirs until later, iirc.
I believe he's referring to these. These are still DT mules?
Who knows, maybe they're just testing a new grille for another trim level (ala tungsten)? -shrugs-
Also I didn't know that there were heavy-duties with front camo' running around too.
LOL! Browsing Camping World, I see a few weighing in at 13,000-14,000 lbs. If they did make 5th wheel trailers weighing that much it would be one heck of a trailer.......
May not make a travel trailer that weighs that much, but put a backhoe etc. on a gooseneck trailer and you're getting there.
Tesla has plans to compete in this market ... Yes? No?
Yes, it's stated in the beginning of the comparison video, post # 5.
Pulling a 30,000 lb trailer is one thing. Having a 30,000 lb trailer pushing a 7500 lb truck down hill is another. Most people around the northeast pull construction trailers with dump trucks, either single axle or tandems. A few triaxles. I see quite a few 1 ton dualies pulling 3-car trailers on the highways. Mostly Dodges. About 15,000 lb load ? I don't know what type of brakes a 30,000 lb trailer would have, But I,d never drive one without air brakes. The maxi-cans apply the trailer brakes in case of a failure.
In CT, you need a CDL class A for any trailer RATED over 10,000 lbs. Or a class 1 for camp trailers over 10,000 lbs. And a medical card.
Back in the 70's, trailer trucks [tandem axle road trucks] used 220 HP Cummins to move freight. Now we need 400 HP in a pick-up truck? ----- I think this is more about bragging rights.
Pretty much, and it's beginning to get ridiculous. I see idiots running up and down the interstate running well over 80mph pulling huge campers. I'm sitting in my vehicle thinking, I wonder if he's ever had a flat on that trailer going that fast? Good luck to him when he does and whomever is near him at the time. And to his main squeeze painting her toenails while they're on top of the airbag that's about to be deployed.
Well, at least you can haul bananas into Scranton, Pennsylvania.