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2019 Challenger Scat Pack 1320 Drag Pack

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by redriderbob, Jul 13, 2018.

  1. MoparJoe

    MoparJoe Well-Known Member

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    would like to see them keep the wide body rear and mix it with the normal front. 305 DR rear with 245's up front. Loose the big chin spoiler in the front, all this would
    take 75lbs off the front end .....
    weight transfer is where it's at .....
     
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  2. EVOL

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    Or even just a small lip so they could fit 305's on the back. Some more creative weight reduction besides just yanking the seats would be nice too.
     
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  3. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    More creative weight reduction really is not feasible and even it if was exotic matierals would raise the price of the package tremendously.

    This seems to be a common misconception repeated over and over. The Charger and Challenger are not going to lose 500# and still meet and exceed safety standards and feature requirements. All that work to “lighten up” the Camaro only resulted in a vehicle that still weighs 4,000 to 4,100 pounds when optioned up.

    A 1969 Hemi Charger weighed 3,900 pounds on average. Today’s musclecars are not exponentially heavier than their predecessors were.

    It really is time to let go of the “the Charger and Challenger heavier than they need to be and are much heavier than the competition” argument... it is simply not true and does not hold water.

    Mike
     
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  4. Ryan

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    $46,000, 0-60 in 3.8 seconds, and a 1/4 mile time of 11.7s. I don't care what it weighs with those numbers!
     
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  5. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    The revised, supposedly much lighter Mustang and Camaro still can’t figure out why the “heavy” Charger and Challenger still beat them.

    They are still holding on to the delusion that their Mustang and/or Camaro weighs 3,400-3,600 pounds.

    Mike
     
  6. MoparJoe

    MoparJoe Well-Known Member

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    But Mike would you agree just put the regular front fenders on use the widebody Rears pick up another couple tire sizes in the back lose that big chin spoiler Aero only comes in at very high speeds. Loosing Losing weight on the front is huge.
     
  7. wtxiceman

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    So it is a 3.70 axle ratio?
     
  8. EVOL

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    If it runs high 11's bone stock in normal conditions then yes and I am with you 100%. If it only runs 11.70 with Leah Pritchett driving on a fully glued track in -2200 DA conditions then no. I have seen a stock Charger scat pack on drag radials run 12.00 so hopefully the 11.7 claim is "normal".


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcOSbxZ4en0
     
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  9. MoparJoe

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    Did someone mention Leah ? 20170824_195807.jpg
     
  10. vipergts2207

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    The SRT front spitter adds a lot a aggressiveness to the looks of the car, so I certainly wouldn’t want to see it go. How much can that piece of plastic really weigh anyway?
     
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  11. HotCarNut

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    And how much downforce is it generating at typical trap speeds?
     
  12. MoparJoe

    MoparJoe Well-Known Member

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    IMG_1174.JPG built this in my dad's barn when I was 27 years old. I know drag racing ...Why do you need front-end downforce had a hundred twenty miles an hour.
    If you have read the Mopar bible on racing 30 years ago, I think it was Larry Shepard... are didn't come in to affect on drag cars till 140.
    As per weight. All the added attachments welded on to the fender , flailing, chin spoiler, mounting brackets , wider trims, tires .. I would put it close to 75 lbs ...
     
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  13. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    I agree.

    Mike
     
  14. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Given the overall situation, I still trust the original source for that. We will see how it actually comes.

    Mike
     
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  15. EVOL

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    Yes and I built a 10 sec Duster when I was 15 - neither have anything to do with the topic at hand.
     
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  16. MoparJoe

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    So my three statements one being that the lower chins aero and that the extra weight in the front end taken away and wider tire size in the rear has nothing to do with what we're talking about .......​
     
  17. fargo59

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    I wholeheartedly applaud the efforts of the scat pack 1320 package. The demon is an amazing setup for those who want to go fast, but people who plan on modifying it will undoubtably change up the engine, and supercharger to go even faster. What the 1320 package gives you is essentially a demon with a 392 (and admittedly an 8hp70 vs 8hp90 transmission) but the benefits here are for anyone on a budget who wants to race, they can start right away and build as they like.
    The late model hemi shootout is seeing 1000 to 1500hp cars become much more common. This could be seen as a starter kit and build the engine as you would like. The small upgrade to the 1320 package gives you launch control, a stout rear end, and a trans brake. It's a win.
     
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  18. MoparJoe

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    Big question is how is the torque Reserve going to work with a car with no supercharger is a matter of just playing with the timing? And what about the Demon converter , will it get filtered down ??
     
  19. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    So well said, I could not agree with you more.

    This is going to be the bracket racer package for sure!

    Mike
     
  20. fargo59

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    It will probably work like a 2 step, which helps keep a lot of the load off the transmission during a trans brake event. Enough torque to preload and flash the converter but not enough to burn clutches. This is my assumption at least
     
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