Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Nov 1, 2017.
Lets hope the front end components are improved on the DS from RAM's historic norm.
Half-ton front ends are not an issue... HD front ends are different story.
I don't think that the Hemi is a big deal anymore for the 1500 from the Ram corporate folks.
On site today contractor discussion turned to Ram 1500 front ends. My third gen. RAM front end was brutal. If the 4th's are better, possibly the 3rd's did enough damage and created a lasting stigma. Yes, my 4th gen HD's front end has been replaced also. Ram needs to make sure their front ends are quality.
3rd gen (02-08) Ram (DR) used a torsion bar front suspension, like Dakota/Durango before it
4th gen (09-18) Ram (DS) uses a strut front suspension
Cool, good to know !
Today, sitting on job boxes i heard a lot of expensive Ram front end stories. Having experienced them myself i couldn't counter. Regardless of the mechanical differences a good portion of the rants were 4th gen.1500's. Yes, we are only a snap shot. One guy made us all cry with his horrible story of owning one of the first ecodiesels, which needed a replacement. Culminated with R.pinion replacement just out of warranty.
But if you just tell us now we won't have to wait.
3rd gen 1500 did not have torsion bars. They had front coil/strut similar to Grand Cherokees.
They most certainly did. At least from 2002-2005.
Maybe those did, but 2007 didn't.
What's the fun in that?
I think we got spoiled with all the JL info that was leaked early. lol
Can't expect that every time. You'll lose interest. lol
I'm wondering if some of the new Wrangler features will be seen in the new Ram.
I’ve had three 4th gens with the 8spd and 3.92 gears. It’s a sublime combo. The most fun was a 1500 R/T. The lighter weight regular cab truck with 2WD made it very quick and it was super fun. It also got VERY good MPGs as well. I’d see weeks of 19-20 MPGs in that truck consistently, sometimes a little better. A little worse when I was feeling froggy. Lol
Sometimes I’d see how far I could push the MPG on my morning commute. So I’d putt to work at 55 mph. It’d get over 30mpg. Lol!!
The attached pic shows one of those trips. Notice the 20mpg average on the overall. I know the computer is optimistic but you get the idea.
One of the vehicles I truly miss.
Damn. I've driven 4 fourth gens. 3 1500s and 1 2500. The 2009 sport was amazing when we drove it off the lot. 100k no problems but around 14 MPG was the final number before trade in. Then the 2012 heavy duty plow truck. That was a dog, weak 5.7, no limited slip, the axles collapsed at 60k, plus it was uncomfortable/bumpy. Final MPG was 9 lol. Then 2 big horns (2016). Both great 8 speed is a lot better than the 6 speed, 18 MPG when I roll and actually try and get a decent number. Great interior and still a great look. Love the options. I wouldn't change much for the next truck except for the powertrains. I hope as I've said numerous times they didn't disregard the HEMI. Btw the power between the 2009 and the 2016 felt about the same, both 3.21s. Even if they bumped it up to like 400-408ish, then it might not be worth getting. Might just get the night trim when the deal is up if that's the case, love the exhaust.
Dakota/Durango only used torsion bars on 4WD/AWD. RWD used coil springs.
Was this the setup Ram used - torsion bars or coils depending on drive line?
I can't speak to 2WD 3rd gen Rams, but for sure 2002-05 3rd gen 4WD Rams used torsion bars in the front end. I believe the other poster is correct regarding 2006-08 using a strut front end
I had a 2005 2500 2wd, it used coil springs on front end.
I believe that's correct.