Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by UN4GTBL, Jun 28, 2019.
Stow and Go is now a decade old...so charging thousands for it makes no sense.
And it is the one real differentiator between the Pacifica and Odyssey/Sienna.
Still a limited option in some models or believe me I would of got it in the RAM...
2020 Chrysler Pacifica Will Cost $6,510 More Than Voyager (at https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/2020-chrysler-pacifica-will-cost-246510-more-than-voyager/ar-AAFrfp2#page=2 )
Will Voyager get a diesel engine and come to Europe? The Voyager diesel sold well in Europe in the 1990s & later.
Talked to my salesman again and asked about no Pacificas on the lot. Said he was told at a recent dealer meeting to order as many Grand Caravans as he can!
Do they even sell Chryslers in Europe anymore?
The last vans sold in Europe were mostly fitted with the DCX-era 2.8 litre VM 4-cylinder 160bhp diesel engine.. which is a fine engine for a goods-vehicle, but well behind the sort of NVH levels European buyers expected. The same V6 as in the US market was also offered, but at European gas prices (and the Voyager's curbweight) this was a tiny share of an already small audience. Sales were predictably small.
Incidentally, all Chrysler minivans since the mid-1990s were sold under the "Voyager" name in Europe, but were in fact the upper trim levels of the American Town&Country model. After 2011, the car was sold as the "Lancia Voyager" as a larger successor the the Lancia Phedra MPV. The "Chrysler" name was retained in UK+Ireland, as Lancia had left these markets in the mid-1980s (this also meant we had the sight of a small number of "Chrysler Delta" and "Chrysler Ypsilon" cars in these islands). When Lancia retreated to Italy in around 2015-2016, the Chrysler brand disappeared.
There's possibly a small demand for the PHEV Pacifica over here - especially as its Canadian origin means it won't attract the 9% tariff that attaches to US-built vehicles. But passenger-vans are a very small market over here, and it's debatable if it would ever make financial sense to homologate it.
Looking at cars.com it appears the Voyager is on lots now. Lowest I'm seeing is an L model for just over $26,000. There's also a 2020 Pacifica L available for $27,000. I thought there weren't moving in on each other with the prices?
Cheapest 2020 Voyager I can see with pictures is this 2020 Voyager L: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/783303857/overview/
Cheapest 2020 Pacifica I can see is a 2020 Pacifica Touring: https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/detail/784965782/overview/
(That's honestly a great vehicle)
Looks like every Pacifica gets the nicer fascias now! The Voyager will get the old base fascias, so I'm happy to see that change for 2020.
I think when the time finally comes I would consider replacing our aging Journey with a Voyager. Although one thing we like about the Journey is that it is not too big...
Thats interesting !!!
I/we are seeing many trailer loads of GC being delivered to our rental car lot.
Along with Nissan's,Hyundai's and BMWs too.
My local dealer had a Voyager on the lot alongside a new GC, The exterior of the Voyager looked okay, but my opinion the Dodge had a more attractive interior. Overall, both looked sort of bare-bones and neither would be on my consideration list, but might do well in rental fleets.
I've looked at both a base pacifica and mid level caravan. The interior is much nicer then a caravan and more user friendly. I have and like my 2016 caravan SE+ but the Pacifica is the better van.
I think after the first year or 2 full stow&go will be standard on the voyager. If not I will also be getting a used LXI
A small bit of good news for Windsor.
Fiat Chrysler extends Windsor Assembly's third shift through March (at https://www.detroitnews.com/story/business/autos/chrysler/2019/11/13/fiat-chrysler-extends-windsor-assembly-third-shift-through-march/4179736002/ )
There's not really a change there to speak of... they just took all the Pacifica models that had the base fascia and renamed them Voyager.
Pacifica made the list
5 'least reliable' cars that may leave you stranded in 2020 (at https://news.yahoo.com/5-least-reliable-cars-may-184815283.html )