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6 speed auto in the Promaster

Discussion in 'Vans' started by voiceofstl, Dec 21, 2016.

  1. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    Its the same 6 speed thats in the Caravan but is it "special" with heavy duty parts since the promaster will carry so much more wieght??????
     
  2. AutoTechnician

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    It's not special as far as I know. A loaded ProMaster is within a couple thousand pounds of a loaded Caravan. Not a huge deal in the grand scheme of things.
     
  3. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    I don't have the numbers but a long wheel base 3500 Promaster with a load has got to be 4 times heavier then a Caravan.
     
  4. page2171

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    From the Ram website, the larget Promaster 3500 weighs 5000 lbs with a GVWR of 9350 lbs. From Edmunds, the Grand Caravan has a curb weight of 4500 lbs with a GVWR of 6050 lbs.
     
  5. ImperialCrown

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    The Hyundai Powertech 6-speeds come in 3 capacities from small torque to large torque capablities.
    6F17, 6F26 and 6F40.
    From what I have heard from the service techs at my Ram Commercial dealer, is that it is a robust transaxle and has given excellent service so far.
     
  6. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    The Caravan and the Promaster uses the Mopar 62TE transmission.
     
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  7. ImperialCrown

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    I stand corrected. Sorry I was thinking of the new transaxle.
    I would think that the 62TE is probably about at it's limits in the Promaster application. The compounder clutch failures of the past seem to have gotten much better and some software updates recently address harsh shifting issues.
    I imagine with suitable cooling and software, the 62TE does OK behind the torque of the Pentastar in a heavy vehicle.
    The Chrysler 62TE automatic transmission (transaxle)

    The Promaster City has the 2.4L and 9-speed.
     
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  8. JavelinAMX

    JavelinAMX Well-Known Member

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    How has the PMC been performing with the 9-Speed?

    I've only driven the 9-Speed once for one weekend trip with a late '15 C200 I4 / 9-Speed combination (~ 30K miles on the clock - around 900 miles of use round-trip ), and it did well with the combination of country/highway driving as well as in-city freeway traffic ... some of which was stop-n-go.

    Any background to share?
     
  9. Dave Z

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    I vaguely recall the 62TE had some special cooling in the ProMaster, or some such. I wondered that they didn’t do a 63TE. I would imagine it’s possible to beef up the 6xTE series.
     
  10. BobbiBigWheels

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    The Promaster features an automated manual transmission, and drives in a completely different manner than the Caravan's 6 speed automatic. If it is the same part as the Caravan, as it has been stated here, that is one thing. Driving a Promaster though, it really is nothing like a Caravan with regards to shift points or throttle response.

    As for the Promaster City - the 9 speed in those performs better than in a 4 cylinder 200 or Cherokee IMO. Promaster Cities fly.
     
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  11. 97 plymouth neon expresso

    97 plymouth neon expresso Well-Known Member

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    I'll take the no longer produced C/V over the PMC any day. I can't believe that a drivers side window isn't even an option
     
  12. JavelinAMX

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    Since my interest is more or less confined to the PMC :

    Any speculation as to why there is a difference quite like you state* between the consumer cars with TS I4+9Speed and the PMC?

    Is there any more NVH in the commercial van's Drive Train when compared to the consumer Street cars noted, apart from the other performance metrics?

    = = =

    * - I'm supposing you're talking speed and responsiveness ? Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  13. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    Very few Promasters are ordered with the automated manual transmission.
    The vast majority come with the Mopar 6 speed auto.
     
  14. MJAB

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    The Promaster with the gasoline V6 Pentastar engine is equipped the 62TE automatic transmission, the ones with diesel engine (3 liter F1C inline 4 cylinders) has the automated manual (C546 also known as M40, commercial name Confort-matic).

    In other markets for most as sold with the manual transaxle C546 (M40).

    Actually Fiat Ducato stopped to use the F1C 3 liter engine, but use a new version of F1A 2.3 liter diesel engine (there ar eversions with low pressure EGR or with SCR) and in smaller model a 2 liter diesel engine.
    The 3 liter F1C, updated version, is used in IVECO Daily.
     
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  15. BobbiBigWheels

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    Hey bud -

    All anecdotal here, but I've likely driven Promaster Cities more than most (I demo'd one for a month...).

    The PMC is louder than the 200/Cherokee for sure, less engine noise more road noise though from lack of insulation I would think. The 9 speed feels as though it is programmed to work versus for economy as the 200/Cherokee feels. If you've ever driven a Ram 1500 and punched it, and then turned "tow/haul" mode on, it is a similar feeling. The Ram 1500 in tow/haul holds its RPM higher, shifts at higher RPM, and honestly, almost feels like a "Sport Mode" for the truck. The PMC feels as though it is locked in this "tow/haul" mode full time.
     
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    Great point MJAB - my bad. I've sold less Promasters than I can count on one hand and what I have sold have all been diesel.
     
  17. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    The poster was referring to the BACK side window like in the back seat if it had one.
     
  18. 97 plymouth neon expresso

    97 plymouth neon expresso Well-Known Member

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    The PMC does not offer any "back" side windows other than the passenger sliding door.
     
  19. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    you are right...which is strange becuse in the PMC wagon it does.
     

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