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88 Horizon Struts

Discussion in 'L: Horizon/Omni, Rampage, etc' started by cadman777, Jul 24, 2016.

  1. cadman777

    cadman777 Active Member

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    Would someone please tell me what they have found to be good quality, long-lasting cartridges to put into the front and rear struts?

    Reason I ask is b/c, back in the day, I recall it being difficult to find quality parts, even OEM. They would work good in one direction, but in the other direction they'd 'bang'. I want to upgrade this car w/good quality cartridges that will work well t/o their life-span.

    Thanx for the input ...
     
  2. Bob Lincoln

    Bob Lincoln "CHECK FAULT CODES"
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    KYBs worked great in my Daytona. Gabriels were defective, the bottom plates were welded at the wrong angle, and the springs would end up bowed. Have also had Gabriel shocks rust til they disintegrated in only 4 years.
     
  3. cadman777

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    Thanx. Was looking at KYB's. RockAuto has a good deal on them + springs. Any intel on good replacement springs?
     
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    Don't really need to replace springs if they're intact. Spring rate won't have changed significantly. I did buy whatever Rockauto carried.
     
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    On K cars, I always liked the Variable Ratio springs over stock. Give a little more carrying capacity and still ride smooth. Don't know if available for Horizon/Omni models. I did like the KYBs on all my VWs also. They are a great shock!
     
  6. cadman777

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    Thanx guys.
    In the old days I would change the leaf or coil springs after a decade, and found the ride much better. Wasn't sure if the variables would do well for the Horizon. I know they did for the heavier cars and trucks. Maybe that's the ticket for this car too.
     
  7. ImperialCrown

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    Moog had variable rate springs for these.
    After this amount of time, L-body springs may be long discontinued.
    I don't know what is still available out there.
     
  8. cadman777

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    Yeah, RockAuto has both. The price may be the deciding factor.
    When I put the load-levelers on my VW Rabbit, they tended to give a bit stiffer, harsher ride. So maybe I'll go w/the less expensive? Not sure yet.
     
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    I have seen where people have rebuilt the strut assemblies and reused the old springs only to go back in to replace a broken spring. I would suggest that since you have the strut assemblies out replace everything on that old of a vehicle.
     
  10. cadman777

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    Thanx ka9, I agree.
    Also, I've seen the sag you get w/old springs.
     
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    Also do not forget about replacing the upper bearing support.
     
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    Thanx man, got it covered.
    That's the part that sucks on this model.
    there's really no damper on the turnbuckle.
    Wish there was, it'd make the ride a lot sweeter.
     
  13. cadman777

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    Hey guys, I can't find any coil springs for this Horizon's front struts.
    Any ideas where I might find them?
    I spent 2 hours searching the internet and calling.
    I do not want variable rate.
    I want OEM constant rate.
    Thanx ...
     
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    Thanx Bob.
    The reason I didn't get those is b/c they are variable rate (that's what the "CC" stands for).
    Alsdo, they aren't the correct springs for this model.
    This model is A/T + A/C.
    The CC712 if for A/T - A/C
    The specs I got from Moog mean that the car will be better off w/the existing worn springs.
    Having said all that, have you used them in a Horizon or Omni?
    If so, what struts did you combine w/them?
     
  16. Bob Lincoln

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    No, they come in either constant rate or variable rate. Read the Info button. You might have to call them to verify how to order.
    I have used Moog springs in my 92 Daytona, they worked fine.
     
  17. bamman

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    I've put variable rate springs in my Omni. The only difference is that I think it made the ride bouncier on high speed bumps. Everyday driving seems fine but since I put Moog CC714 on the front, there is one on ramp with a bump that I hit my head if I don't duck. Other than that, everything is fine.
     
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    Thanx bamman,
    According to Moog, the CC model numbers refer to variable rate springs.
    They say they discontinued the spring for the model I'm working on (#CC714).
    Also they said they never made constant rate springs for this car.
    So I'm still wondering where to get a set for a good price.
     
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    Would soimeone please give me a link to an OEM catalog that has all the OEM part numbers for an 88 Horizon Americana 2.2L (non-turbo)?
    I just got Moog springs from RockAuto, and they are the WRONG PART.
    Another 15 minute job turned into THREE HOURS!
    I need to know every single OEM part number before ordering from RockAuto, or else I risk buying the wrong part.
    Welcome to Chinese warehouse Amerika, where the mechanic is a parts dealer too!
    Thanx ...
     
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