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99 dodge stratus 2.4 dohc

Discussion in '200, Avenger/Sebring, Cirrus/Stratus/Breeze' started by captainwon, Mar 26, 2017.

  1. captainwon

    captainwon New Member

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    My car cranks but no fire, no fuel. I put new coil ignition pack, new crank sensor, fuel pump, checked all fuses, relays. I think, maybe a short with horn once E.G. going down the road and it would start blowing by itself. I also noticed sometimes when i touched the passenger door i would sometimes get a static shock. Can someone help me with this. All opinions are welcomed. Thanks to all who reply
     
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    peterjon1 Well-Known Member

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    Timing belt broken/loose? Cam sensor? Not sue if cam sensor would cause no start, but will cause long crank time before start. Any CEL codes?
     
  3. ImperialCrown

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    A car can start with the cam sensor unplugged if defective, but it does take a long crank time to fire up. Do you have 5 volts on the sensor regulated power supply wire to the sensors? Any fault codes? Does the 'ck eng' light come on when the key is turned to 'run'?
    Do you have access to an OBDII scan tool to watch cam and crank sensor signal presence while cranking? If you spray a shot of flammable solvent (carefully) into the throttle body, does it fire up briefly?
    You can have good fuel line pressure, but if the injectors aren't opening, you will still have no fuel getting to the cylinders. Or doesn't the fuel pump run at all?
    You can try the tests listed in 'No-Start' here on p.302:
    http://oskin.ru/pub/chrysler-dodge/manuals/Service Manuals/2002_JR_Sebring_Stratus/02jrep.pdf
    The horn blowing may be the steering wheel horn pad covering the airbag is shorting or is it rhythmic horn blasts like the security alarm system (VTSS) being triggered? Does the car have the VTSS (alarm) option?
    The static shock may be unrelated to any of the above.
     
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  4. captainwon

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    I have approximately 9 volts to the wires but no reading on crank sensor therefore no spark to ignition/coil pack. I put new crank sensor in. But voltage is more than 5 it is 9 ????
     
  5. ImperialCrown

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    The 1999 JA service manual shows an 8 volt supply to the cam and crank sensors, so 9 volts may be OK. All other sensors get 5 volts. See p. 14-43 here:
    http://oskin.ru/pub/chrysler-dodge/manuals/Service Manuals/1999_JA_Cirrus_Stratus/EJA_14.PDF
    A description of the cam and crank sensors is on p. 14-32. Both sensors must have a good ground and uninterrupted signal lines to the PCM.
    See p. 8W-30-8 for the cam/crank wiring diagram here:
    http://oskin.ru/pub/chrysler-dodge/manuals/Service Manuals/1999_JA_Cirrus_Stratus/EJA_8W.PDF
    Note that they share powers and grounds with separate signal lines.
    Is the timing belt turning the cam sprockets while cranking? Has the belt possibly jumped timing?
    Is the replacement crank position sensor an OEM part?
     
  6. AllanC

    AllanC Well-Known Member

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    Follow the advice I C provided on checking the timing belt. If the belt has stripped teeth / cam not turning or out of time that can create lots of issues.

    Here is a simple test to determine if the crankshaft position sensor is functioning properly and can be eliminated as the source of the problem. You need to be in an area with minimal outside noise. Inside the vehicle turn off the radio and blower fan. Fasten the seat belt to silence the seat belt reminder chime.

    Turn the ignition switch to the RUN position (do not start). Do you hear the electric fuel pump run for 2 - 3 seconds and then stop? You may need to position a helper at the rear and underneath the vehicle. Engage the starter for 5 seconds and then release the ignition switch to the RUN position (do not turn off). Do you hear the electric fuel pump continue to run for 2 - 3 seconds and then stop? If YES then you know that the crankshaft position sensor is good and sending a proper signal to the PCM (powertrain control module). The PCM will only energize the fuel pump if a proper signal is received from the crankshaft position sensor. If you do not hear the fuel pump run then further investigation into the crankshaft position sensor and wiring will be necessary.

    Here are links to discussion about how to check the crankshaft position sensor and camshaft position sensor using simple tools.

    Part 1 -How to Test the Crank Sensor (Chrysler 2.0L, 2.4L) (at http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/chrysler/2.0L-2.4L/how-to-test-the-crank-sensor-1 )

    Part 1 -How to Test the Cam Sensor (Chrysler 2.0L, 2.4L) (at http://troubleshootmyvehicle.com/chrysler/2.0L-2.4L/how-to-test-the-cam-sensor-1 )
     

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