Uh no, ...I was using hypothetical costs, I did not mention sales numbers. A business, as Bob pointed out, cannot continue to have higher overhead than profit, it's how we got to this point to begin with. It's why Fiat Europe is in trouble and I question why we would want to duplicate the same mistakes here. Looking at Fiat plants and platforms in Europe it's like they are playing musical,chairs with their plants. It's not a prudent way to conduct business. It may eventually be the right moves, but if so, why weren't they smart enough to do it right the first time?