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AN: Is FCA making a minivan mistake? [includes recent spy shots]

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Allpar News System, Feb 2, 2015.

  1. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Allpar Legacy

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    Then you need to add Caliber sales to 200/Avenger.
     
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  3. Christopher

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    When my family was in Hawaii we rented a minivan one day so that we could all go somewhere together. It was a Toyota. My mother was so enamored by it that when she replaces her current car, all she can talk about is how much she liked that minivan and wants a Toyota. Trying to convince her to consider something else has been a struggle. When it comes time to replace her aging Saturn, I suspect she will look at a Corolla because of her experience with a rental minivan.
     
  4. MoparNorm

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    Rent a T&C for a day and take her for a ride, she will forget all about that Toy.
     
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  5. UN4GTBL

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    2008 wasn't really an "improvement" over the 4th gens...IMO, quality went down.
    2011+ is about equal to the 4th gens, with both having advantages
     
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  6. UN4GTBL

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    Wasn't the first minivan produced a Plymouth Voyager (which is at the Chrysler museum, and which was later rebadged as a Dodge Caravan after they killed Plymouth)

    I agree that "Caravan" and/or "Grand Caravan" are brands in themselves, but I'm not sure how I feel about a "Chrysler Caravan" or "Chrysler Grand Caravan" or any other combination
     
  7. Stratuscaster

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    That "first" minivan in the museum was indeed a Plymouth Voyager, converted to a Dodge Caravan after Plymouth's death, but prior to the museum's closing was returned to it's Plymouth state.
     
  8. Ian

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    Did they change the badging on the van at the museum? Seems non-sense to me...
     
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  9. Stratuscaster

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    I believe they did.

    Marketing apparently felt that celebrating the whatever-decades-old anniversary of a minivan from a brand that no longer existed didn't make sense. I can understand that.

    Again, it was restored to original prior to the museum closing to the public.
     
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  10. MoparNorm

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    It's marketing's job to re-write history...and to cover up past mistakes...:rolleyes:
     
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  11. Cornupenuria

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    After the talk in this thread about whether or not it's necessary for a minivan to be able to carry 4' x 8' sheets of building materials I chuckled when I read the RFI for the U. S. Postal Service Next Generation Delivery Van (NGDV) which includes a 72" x 108" load floor with a 26" to 28" load height.
     
  12. Stratuscaster

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    Not all that silly - USPS notes that their mix of deliveries has shifted greatly from letters to parcels - that takes up a lot more space.
     
  13. MoparNorm

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    I could see a 50" width requirement, for a pallet of packages, however 72" sounds like a specific size to tailor the vehicle to one specific entry.
    Few vehicles are 72" clear inside. Until you get to the AMGeneral and Grumman.
     
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  14. Stratuscaster

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    Not that it's in the running, but Promaster is 73.4" side-to-side...ABOVE the wheel wells. It's only 56" between the wells.
     
  15. TheMan

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    Go to the thread in Industry News and read. The links are there to stop the iggernant guesstimating and rewriting the specs for USPS REQUIREMENTS.
     
  16. MoparNorm

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    Exactly. So the spec eliminates it...and many others. It is also curious due to tight clearance urban areas.
    Note above the wheel wells, takes the load height out of spec as well.
     
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  17. Stratuscaster

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    Yup. And we're off topic. (Again. ;) )
     
  18. MoparNorm

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    Sorry, simply responded to your post.
    You drove off the road...and naturally I followed.
     
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    I am put in mind of bridges and lemmings possibly? :p

    JUST KIDDING NORM! :D
     
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  20. Stratuscaster

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    Nah. Norm's just that much of an off-roader - it comes naturally. ;)
     

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