Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Allpar News System, Feb 2, 2015.
Then you need to add Caliber sales to 200/Avenger.
I don't know whether it's like Tide and Oxydol; would adding ingredients and a pleasant scent garner more shelf space in stores and more market share? It's a classic business example; some here think it extends to minivans, some don't. https://books.google.com/books?id=vy7fBQAAQBAJ&pg=PA253&lpg=PA253&dq=Tide+and+Oxydol&source=bl&ots=5iaHrci5W8&sig=raFRd2PMhWv16HdNjyeYfi8SiGI&hl=en&sa=X&ei=gsPoVKKjA8nBggSf1IHwBA&ved=0CEYQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Tide and Oxydol&f=false
When my family was in Hawaii we rented a minivan one day so that we could all go somewhere together. It was a Toyota. My mother was so enamored by it that when she replaces her current car, all she can talk about is how much she liked that minivan and wants a Toyota. Trying to convince her to consider something else has been a struggle. When it comes time to replace her aging Saturn, I suspect she will look at a Corolla because of her experience with a rental minivan.
Rent a T&C for a day and take her for a ride, she will forget all about that Toy.
2008 wasn't really an "improvement" over the 4th gens...IMO, quality went down.
2011+ is about equal to the 4th gens, with both having advantages
Wasn't the first minivan produced a Plymouth Voyager (which is at the Chrysler museum, and which was later rebadged as a Dodge Caravan after they killed Plymouth)
I agree that "Caravan" and/or "Grand Caravan" are brands in themselves, but I'm not sure how I feel about a "Chrysler Caravan" or "Chrysler Grand Caravan" or any other combination
That "first" minivan in the museum was indeed a Plymouth Voyager, converted to a Dodge Caravan after Plymouth's death, but prior to the museum's closing was returned to it's Plymouth state.
Did they change the badging on the van at the museum? Seems non-sense to me...
I believe they did.
Marketing apparently felt that celebrating the whatever-decades-old anniversary of a minivan from a brand that no longer existed didn't make sense. I can understand that.
Again, it was restored to original prior to the museum closing to the public.
It's marketing's job to re-write history...and to cover up past mistakes...
After the talk in this thread about whether or not it's necessary for a minivan to be able to carry 4' x 8' sheets of building materials I chuckled when I read the RFI for the U. S. Postal Service Next Generation Delivery Van (NGDV) which includes a 72" x 108" load floor with a 26" to 28" load height.
Not all that silly - USPS notes that their mix of deliveries has shifted greatly from letters to parcels - that takes up a lot more space.
I could see a 50" width requirement, for a pallet of packages, however 72" sounds like a specific size to tailor the vehicle to one specific entry.
Few vehicles are 72" clear inside. Until you get to the AMGeneral and Grumman.
Not that it's in the running, but Promaster is 73.4" side-to-side...ABOVE the wheel wells. It's only 56" between the wells.
Go to the thread in Industry News and read. The links are there to stop the iggernant guesstimating and rewriting the specs for USPS REQUIREMENTS.
Exactly. So the spec eliminates it...and many others. It is also curious due to tight clearance urban areas.
Note above the wheel wells, takes the load height out of spec as well.
Yup. And we're off topic. (Again. )
Sorry, simply responded to your post.
You drove off the road...and naturally I followed.
I am put in mind of bridges and lemmings possibly?
JUST KIDDING NORM!
Nah. Norm's just that much of an off-roader - it comes naturally.