Well, I've never had any mechanical problems with my 62TE, (Knocking on wood right now ), that I had to keep returning to the dealer for, so, I'd have to take that one over the 9. Last thing I want is to have to return to the dealer for anything. I agree with the harshness, especially the bumping and thumping. The times when you just get on the gas and then immediately have to get back off it for a second for some reason and then back on again. Man, it just hates that! Creeping along in traffic is like getting rear ended sometimes. Lol I've never replaced a battery or fob since I bought my van in 2011. Eco button is horrible. Wife hates it and I do too. I got a really bad shudder through the floorboard while driving around the city once and thought OMF I think the transmission is slipping! What a rush! I realized I had hit the "ECO" button while putting something in the console and accidentally turned it on. Man, that thing sucks!