Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Allpar News System, Oct 2, 2014.
Yes....a 1994 Chevy fullsize Blazer (2nd gen) and an AM General M923A1 5ton 6x6 (3rd gen).
Soooo.....the 'ship has sailed'.....and the next Wrangler will be an aluminum unibody construction, IFS with rear solid axles, fixed winshield, with removable roof panels.........am I close ?
As I now go run and hide.......
Steel frame with aluminum tub highly likely (not unibody), Ram based suspension seems likely, fixed windshield very likely, convertible-ness undetermined, depends on if roof crush test will be required.
Not on the body. Aluminum BOF structure that meets FMVSS216 to eliminate convertible or open body issues.
Now since dave gave the green light to continue....what variants do you want to see?
...and lets keep each answer to the types you want to see, NOT a discussion or argument over why or why not of a particular style.
Two door, four door, pickup. So keep current two variants plus pickup.
Ill go 1 step further and say 4 door pickup.
Addendum: I will cut this off at 11:00 am to allow me to add up the variants and figure out the changes for each, if possible to include in a single design.
Four door and pick up. I would not be be put off by a full metal integrated roof if it was offered, with sun roof option. Once you've been in a 4 door Wrangler you may have a hard time seeing the value of offering a 2 door version.
Look at what the Japanese makers offer in other markets. The offer a wider range of 4x4 designs than anyone else. I guess the market is not big enough here though or else they would offer those same products here.
Many people have been clamoring for a Wrangler pick up, esp since the discontinuance of the Dakota. As good as the Ram is, it is just too big for many buyers who have limited parking or have to park in cities. If they offered a Wrangler pick up that WILL be my next Jeep. As it is, I like the latest GC, but it is too car-like and complex to me. I reached my complexity tolerance level with the WK.
If they use the coil over suspension design on the new Wrangler, a note to those in a position to choose materials: Let's see if you can choose a material for the clevis bolt and lower control arm bushing that does not rust/seize in the bushing on the lower control arm, making a simple shock absorber upgrade a sh!tshow. I can change 4 shocks on a ZJ in less than an hour. These are the things that will push me away from Jeep, if not corrected.
Let's see if you have the sense to stop using the stupid lug nuts with the tin covers that twist off. Or the cheap plastic clips/retainers that are part of an 'assembly'......
Don't want to hijack Bob's thread, but if, as rumored, the Wrangler is getting smaller, a four door variant is probably out of the question. The AEV Brute Double Cab is 24" longer than JKU.
So don't get your hopes up.
If any truck variant comes, it is likely to be a jump cab like the Gladiator Concept.
I was once stationed where there was an RAF detachment on the same base. I got to look at their LRs and saw a larger radius of curvature in many of the body stampings than on our steel-bodied Jeeps and pickups. I then had some understanding of why the LRs were funny-shaped. I visualize Marlin Perkins in a LR being chased by a rhinoceros.
whooooooa...... Ok I missed that part..... So are you saying that in addition to possibly not being a convertible Wrangler the 4 door also may not be built?
In the 24 years I have been driving XJ Cherokee's I have never lost one of those covers.
Of course I do my own brakes and rotation, etc and don't use air tools. So the only time a power tool touches them is when I get new tires.
My M300 motor home had shimmy problems by 25,000 miles while my D300 truck had no problems by its 135,000 mi EOL for rust.
I think he meant 4 door truck.
Obvious that you cannot follow simple requests to sit on your hands about comments.....
Obvious you cannot follow simple requests either....
No one said anything about shorter length Norm. You are misinterpreting statements.
2 door, 4 door and 2 door pickup w/ a small area behind the seats for storage.
Dave....it is also obvious that we are going to have to end these discussions since people cannot sit on their hands again to allow me to continue. Too bad. Like always the few kill the opportunity for the many to learn. Call me and I will answer the questions for your article.