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Another Comparo Win - Honda versus Chrysler (AutoGuide)

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by Hemidakota, Dec 6, 2017 at 8:12 AM.

  1. Hemidakota

    Hemidakota Active Member

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    2018 Honda Odyssey vs 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Comparison Test

    ...The Pacifica beats the Odyssey on those two last points, in particular, feeling peppy and eager to drive, even in corners, although the engine and ride might not be as refined. However, the Pacifica’s interior also felt and looked more luxurious, with those dual screens representing a huge appeal for kids, and second-row seats that not only stow, but also flip out of the way for third-row access, making the best use of all that space that minivans promise. Aside from Chrysler’s reputation for questionable reliability, my other main complaint is that the Pacifica can get really pricey, hitting over fifty thousand dollars fully loaded (as tested, this model would cost $50,120 including $1,095 freight in the US or $61,595 including $1,795 freight in Canada), so it’s hard to accept paying that much for ANY minivan, even one as luxurious and well equipped as this.

    After spending the better part of two weeks with these two minivans, the Chrysler Pacifica is the one my family wanted to keep.

    STORY LINK: 2018 Honda Odyssey vs 2017 Chrysler Pacifica Comparison Test - AutoGuide.com News (at http://www.autoguide.com/car-comparisons/2018-honda-odyssey-vs-2017-chrysler-pacifica-comparison-test )
     
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  2. TripleT

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    I spent a week with one and it is Truly a great product, and astoundingly better then previous, to point where is difficult to explain..

    You just have to experience it sort of thing,
     
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  3. Chase300

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    I'd say the main thing I've notice is its quite a bit wider than the old T&C. So much roomier inside and more inline with what Honda has been selling. It also is quite nice inside in materials and color choices...more like a designer interior than the standard mono color so many have gone to.
    Only knock I have on the 2 rentals I had was the road noise and the crap Kumho tires they had that offered zero traction in the wet.
     
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  4. Hemidakota

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    Road noise to pertain to what? Was it the tires? Wind noise? Any rattling of parts?
     
  5. valiant67

    valiant67 Rich Corinthian Leather
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    It’s been a close battle between the two, glad Pacifica won this one.
     
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    Indeed. I wonder if the second stop sale on Odyssey in the last year for problems with the second row seat safety is impacting them? After all, that's most likely where your car seats go and kids sit. Honda's have serious issues at times (like every automaker), but they don't seem to get much attention in the media....
     
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    FCA seems the excel at selecting crappy OEM tires, especially noisy ones that ruin otherwise quite interiors.
     
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    valiant67 Rich Corinthian Leather
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    As I understand it, that affected the 2017 and earlier vans, but not the 2018. But then, people tend to believe Honda will willingly fix a problem, a benefit not afforded to FCA (and there is evidence that is sometimes true).
     
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  9. redriderbob

    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    I still say the minivan is the best all around vehicle on the planet. It's good to see FCA US dominate the market that they created.
     
  10. somber

    somber 370,000 miles
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    I long for the day when we don't see stuff like that written about Chrysler. I know it's anecdotal, but the Dodge vehicles I've owned (7 so far) have been very reliable. I wish FCA could do something to improve the perception.

    I've noticed that as well. From what I've read, Odysseys have had a lot of transmission problems - far more than Grand Caravan. But I hear people warning others away from Grand Caravan because of "bad transmission problems", then these same people recommend the Odyssey.
     
  11. Chase300

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    Tires...no wind, no rattles. Not much better than the current Odyssey IMO.
    Certainly not as quiet as my Durango or a JGC with respect to tire noise.
    My only disappointment. Not sure better tires would reduce it all that much either.

    Upside is the stereo in both rentals was Excellent!!!
    Better than my Citadel Alpine system by a lot. Again IMO.
     
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  12. Cody's Car Conundrum

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    You and me both man, I get so sick of seeing the same old "beware of Chrysler (FCA)!" sentence written over and over and over again...

    That second bit you mentioned drives me up the wall. "If I hear ONE more comment like that!" Haha.
     
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    Hopefully the new trannies are better than the 6 speed they use in the GC . Frankly it's the worse shifting auto I have ever owned .
     
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    somber 370,000 miles
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    I have never liked any automatic transmission I've ever owned, but our 2011 Grand Caravan 6 speed has been solid - not pleasant, but solid. We only have a little over 100K miles on it, but it's given me no reason to believe it will fail anytime soon.
     
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    It is by far. I have a 2008 model and I keep laughing when I hear the dog clutch engaging. Amazing, who in the well thought of using this device.
     
  16. Hemidakota

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    When Forbes thought of to apply its own idiocy in the world of a vehicle recall research, I was the first to point out the difference of 1500, 2500, and 3500 models when it came to safety recalls (combined into one truck and then try to compare with other trucks). The journalist blamed Dodge as being the first with the most recall. Funny thing though, the Tundra, light-duty truck when comparing that year model with the Dodge Ram 1500, had more recalls. Privately, I told him, he needs to learn to research and ask questions from those who knew the subject very well and find time in retaking MATH 101. We all have access to the same DOT database and can count vice in skewing numbers.

    Then I went to add his own lack of judgment concerning praising a brand, noting his love for Honda, I showed one single model for that same year, the enormous amount of TSB that was issued (Accord). Then compared it to a Dodge vehicle...some of which, had three to four revision since they failed to get it right. LOL

    I am not advocating FCA have flawless vehicles, we know this for sure. But people need to stop living a perception that does not exist.
     
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    FORBES has its own problems. I constantly see top 15 cars to avoid from Forbes and the Wrangler is on the top of the list citing harshness and road noise. Well no crap! Its and offroad convertible.
     
  18. voiceofstl

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    I have heard this b4...My 2016 caravan 6 speed has been smooth as silk so far.. Its been the BEST shifting auto I have owned.
     
  19. MPE426HEMI

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    Definitely!
     
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    MPE426HEMI Well-Known Member

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    I’ve seen this before. Those idiots don’t even know what that type of vehicle is. You don’t buy a Wrangler and expect it’s on road manners to be that of a luxury car, just as you don’t take a luxury car off road and expect it not to bottom out! I’ve even heard people who own them say it. And they are mostly the one’s who didn’t even know what they were buying, just that they look cool or the neibour had one, so they got one too. Some foolishness like that.
     
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