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Aw crap - Journey PS hose failures

Discussion in 'Dodge Journey' started by Powdered Toast Man, Dec 11, 2013.

  1. pug-man

    pug-man Well-Known Member

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    Man, and this during a "warm spell"?
     
  2. Jeff2KPatriotBlue

    Jeff2KPatriotBlue Radioactive

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    Likely pre-stressed due to contraction in the cold, when it warms up it expands, but is weakened.
     
  3. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    Holy crap! Jeff make sure you submit a complaint to TC via that link above. Be sure to mention the impact to the safety of operating the vehicle. I know exactly what you mean about how difficult these things are to drive without the PS. I wrestled mine from South St. Mary's Rd all the way up to North Main to Eastern Chrysler. Be prepared for the new line to be on back order too.
     
  4. Jeff2KPatriotBlue

    Jeff2KPatriotBlue Radioactive

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    [humour] Perhaps there is something about St. Mary's Road that is causing this.[/humour]
     
  5. peterjon1

    peterjon1 Well-Known Member

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    A quote from the King of Obsolete's site, regarding his GM truck:
    "NEXT THE NEW POWER STEERING HOSE STARTS LEAKING THEN IT JUST BLOWS UP. WHICH HAPPENS EVERY YEAR. THE 1986 DODGE TRUCK HAS THE SAME POWER STEERING HOSES ON THE TRUCK FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS."
    www.kingofobsolete.ca
     
  6. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    If this becomes an annual occurrence then this thing will be going onto the used car market.
     
  7. peterjon1

    peterjon1 Well-Known Member

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    Well, KoO is about 1000 km north of you in Lynn Lake, so likely temps are more extreme for him.
     
  8. Jeff2KPatriotBlue

    Jeff2KPatriotBlue Radioactive

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    Update:

    Took it to the shop today. This was not covered under the power trian warranty, and the previous replacement was in November 2012, so the 1 year parts warranty is lapsed as well.

    Repairing hose - C$175
    BG PS full synthetic fluid - C$130

    The BG fluid proports to be good down to -60C, so that should help.

    This is a known issue. Chrysler, how about some "goodwill" on this?

    Mrs. is drifting into the "never again!" camp quickly.
     
  9. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    Jeff, they put the synthetic BG fluid in mine too. My invoice states 1.1L was used. Mine was under warranty but I have a hard time believing that 1.1L of PS fluid should cost anyone $130! Unreal! (Note that a Google search indicates it available at Wal Mart for $7.98 a bottle)
     
  10. Jeff2KPatriotBlue

    Jeff2KPatriotBlue Radioactive

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    I haven't picked it up yet, but will inform them that if they insist on that price, it will be the last $130 they get from me.
     
  11. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    $130 for $10 worth of PS fluid is obscene. Which dealership is that (so I can avoid them)?
     
  12. Jeff2KPatriotBlue

    Jeff2KPatriotBlue Radioactive

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    Waverley CDG; part of the Gauthier group.

    Winnipeg CDG is also off my list.

    I have been pleased with Eastern.

    I think I am going to do the "you can charge me that, because I did agree to it, however, you have to know that it is will be the VERY LAST $130 you see from me. It is up to you."
     
  13. pug-man

    pug-man Well-Known Member

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    I've been taking my Charger to Gauthier Chrysler on Regent, and have had good experience there.
     
  14. Doug D

    Doug D Virginia Gentleman

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    Jeff, It certainly wouldn't hurt to call Chyrsler in that regard.

    When the front brake pads on our 2009 Journey needed replacement at only 22K miles, I called Chrysler and opened a case #. Ended up submitting the service invoice and method of payment. About two weeks later I recieved a check from Chrysler reimbursing me in full for the brake service. About a month later they issued a limited recall depending on the mileage of the vehicle.

    The worst they can say is no.
     
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  15. pug-man

    pug-man Well-Known Member

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    Powdered Toast Man, any updates on your Journey?
     
  16. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    So far, so good with the new cooler line and synthetic fluid. Seems to squall less when I cold start it too. I still hear the power steering pump let out a giant whine when it fires, but it goes away really quickly - a lot quicker than before.
     
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  17. Jeff2KPatriotBlue

    Jeff2KPatriotBlue Radioactive

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    Bearhawke Things happen for a reason

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    That was a huge problem with the 5.0L and 5.7L (305-350) Chevy V8's from 1996 up as well............
     
  19. reaperofwaywardsouls

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    Are the repairs still holding up PTM and Jeff2K?

    How would you say the vehicles are to own while living in Winnipeg now?
     
  20. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    So far so good. Made it through last winter - although I did keep it in a heated garage and it rarely spent an entire day outside.

    As for life in Winnipeg with it - you need winter tires. The stock Kumho's are terrible. AWD doesn't even seem to matter. AWD city gas mileage is still horrid. (I'll never buy an AWD vehicle again - winter tires are far more significant a difference in winter)

    Right now I have just under 40,000 KM on it. I'm going to have to get the brakes checked soon as I'm noticing shuddering in the steering wheel and pulling to one side under braking. (probably a warped rotor).

    As for dealerships... I've got about 6 months of PT warranty left. The 3-year bumper to bumper is long expired. Once my cars are out of warranty they never see the dealership again. I've been taking my Magnum to Neil & Watt Service (on the corner of Neil & Watt) because it's close and a mom & pop kind of place where they're honest. I'll be taking the Journey there soon for any non- warranty work as well.
     
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