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Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. Bob Lincoln

    Bob Lincoln "CHECK FAULT CODES"
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    They haven't quite reached that level still. Gas here is still 30 cents a gallon more than before the hurricane.
     
  2. Doug D

    Doug D Virginia Gentleman

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    It's close here. Pre-Harvey 87 octane was just over $2/gallon - around $2.05. Yesterday I fueled up for $2.109 though some local stations are $2.15 to $2.29.
     
  3. freshforged

    freshforged Well-Known Member

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    We are consistently near $3.
     
  4. CherokeeVision

    CherokeeVision Well-Known Member

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    Below pre Harvey price at some stations in central Texas.
    Filled up for $1.96 today.
     
  5. BobbiBigWheels

    BobbiBigWheels The "Front-Line" Perspective

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  6. Archknight

    Archknight Well-Known Member

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    If this car was built on a modified version of the SUSW platform and came out of Mexico on the same lines as the Compass, wouldn't that be an easier solution? They could easily take the position the Verano had at $26-27k, which is a more profitable mark for a compact car. It just seemed thar FCA was too willing to go for the short game, instead of planning for the long haul.
     
  7. wtxiceman

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    It' 2.30 out here in the middle of the oilfields. Even have a refinery in my city.
     
  8. UN4GTBL

    UN4GTBL Allpar Legacy

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  9. jerseyjoe

    jerseyjoe Plymouth Makes It

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  10. pt006

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    Same for CT. It was $2.30 pre Harvey, it is down to $2.65 in town. $2.73 on the interstate. I'm beginning to feel the screw turning.

    Saw a Jaguar commercial yesterday showing a fancy car and then a claim that it gets 40 MPG highway. Diesel I'm guessing. The world isn't standing still, and it's getting harder to compete. That said, it probably costs like 50K, and my PT will go a long ways on 50K worth of regular.
     
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  11. Deckard_Cain

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    Ford doesn't have half the presence that FCA has in Latin America though. In Argentina+Brasil, the Fiat brand has sold 250k non-commercial vehicles. If you include commercial vehicles that number jumps to 355k vehicles.
    In Mexico, if you add the Dodge Neon with Fiat sales, you get 15k vehicles.
    So if they used Mexico as a manufacturing base for the Tipo (which is much cheaper to produce than the Focus by the way), they could then sell it as a Chrysler 100/Doge Neon in NAFTA and as a Fiat Tipo in Latin America.
    This would lead to increased sales in Latin America, and a bigger presence in the compact segment in Canada and the US. It would also allow them to use Turkey's production exclusively for Europe and the Middle East.

    But yeah, I'm aware this won't happen. They've delayed the launch of a ton of sorely needed vehicles not only in the US but also in Europe to achieve net debt zero.
     
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  12. TripleT

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    Everything you said is true, but volume is not the problem, and labor is only one the portion of the cost. It total supply chain costing structure which isn't significantly different unless your intention is that most of the components would come from Turkey, South America, and Asia. At that the NA capacity is still a constrain and better margin vehicle would still be displaced.
     
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  13. KrisW

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    The problem with any "just make Tipo in..." argument is that the terms of the FCA/Tofas joint venture say that the Tipo cars have to be built by Tofas. In Turkey.

    Now, maybe if the production in Turkey is completely saturated by European/Middle-East demand, there may be an option to set up a second source, or there could be some sort of sub-sub-contracting where Tofas gets plant space in Mexico from FCA so that it can build cars for sale to FCA there...
     
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  14. Deckard_Cain

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    Well, but they could make the Neon in Mexico. That's not a Tipo... :D

    But I know my arguments are a bit pointless there are reasons why no Chrysler 100 will come to the US NAFTA market. Redriderbob already spoke about it and a few of the mods.

    I think the car is great for what it is, and perfectly suited for the US/Canadian market if it got the new Firefly engines and the Hurricane.



    That's an updated Egea sedan, with DRLs and updated infotainment. To me, that seems like a perfect cost-competitive sedan for the US/Canada market.
     
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    Or better yet, another three year SRT production run.
     
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  16. TripleT

    TripleT Allpar Legacy

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    Import the body in white from China, finished by SRT group
     
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  17. dmcdonald

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    $1.30/l here. That is $5.00/US gallon. And that is lower than its been for most of the past year.
     
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  18. GasAxe

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    I'm partial to;
    "Everyone's got a plan until they get punched in the mouth." - Mike Tyson
    and
    "What's his plan? Russians don't take a dump, son, without a plan." - Admiral Painter
     
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  19. redriderbob

    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    Sigh
     
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  20. Moparian

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    Le sigh..... All they had to do was make a SRT version......how many current and former SRT-4 owners would have jumped onto that? I would have had a deposit on day one.
     
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