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Challenger & Charger to get Maserati Ghilbi platform in 2021

Discussion in 'Rumors and Speculation' started by Fast Eddie, Oct 18, 2017.

  1. mopar22

    mopar22 Well-Known Member

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    The longer a design stays stagnant the better chance it has of dying. Hell look at how long the neon and pt cruiser design stayed the same and by the end of the life they were selling next to nothing. Be glad if it comes back that the design is different and not the same, jsut means it will stay around longer
     
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  2. Dave Z

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    I can see that. Old Chrysler would have taken that information and fed it into CATIA for the long term wear models. (I'm sure they do that in NX, but as Bob Sheaves has pointed out, the lack of digits makes the final estimates looser.)
     
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    IF the 300 dies, I hope they bring back the Magnum to fill the void. oh2o did say there would be a surprise coming out of Brampton.
     
  4. voiceofstl

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    I know about A,B,C bodys but when it comes to "platform" I am lost. How the large Pacifica is on the same "platform" as the Dart and the 200 is beyond me. So the Ghibi mopar version can look like anything.
     
  5. randy1911

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    If FCA is smart it can only help.
     
  6. randy1911

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    I remember when Brampton ran 3 shifts just to keep up with production during the 2005 to 2006 years, I'm sure if FCA wants to do it they can the question is, if they want.
     
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  7. redriderbob

    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    With the future product lineup they are going to have to.
     
  8. jimboy

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    Thank you, I think....
     
  9. Deckard_Cain

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    The longer the same product stays on the market the higher the chance it has of dying.
    Audi and BMW have shown that the same styling cues can be applied and iterated upon multiple times and that this actually strengthens a brand's identity. If they released a new 300 I would expect it to not look radically different from the 300 but to be an evolution of this design. If it is radically different then they might as well give it a completely different name and fail to capitalize on the fondness and imagery of the 300.
     
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  10. AmbassadorSST

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    Do they really need a RWD 300, if Chrysler is going to become a CUV/Minivan brand?
    A Pacifica based large FWD car for Chrysler could still happen...but they probably won't call that car a "300".
     
  11. mopar22

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    those companies have found their identity and can stay the same. Chrysler is searching for their and you most likely found it with the 200/Pacifica
     
  12. Muther

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    Architecture refers to Parts. Parts with part numbers.

    Platform is nothing more than a dreamt up box; it is a set of measurements, an invisible box in the air.

    This invisible box, of very specific measurements represents what sort of vehicle will fit down an assembly line.

    The place form represents all of the hard points onthe car where the assembly line interfaces with the car.

    For each measurement point, each hard point in the platform (the invisible box), there is a maximum and a minimum measurement.
     
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  13. redriderbob

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    Even though the Pacifica used the CUSW architecture as the basis of it's RU platform, it is actually quite different. This is because of the use of the Stow & Go seating and battery placement of the Pacifica Hybrid. That is why the upcoming Chrysler full-size CUV will be based on Pacifica and will be able to have Stow & Go seating and the CUSW platform based mid-size CUV based on the K8 platform will not be able to feature Stow & Go seating.
     
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  14. Mike V.

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    Three vehicles from Windsor, none are sedans.

    Mike
     
  15. duster92

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    Castiglione also designed the 300 M.
     
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  16. redriderbob

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    You mean Eagle Vision... lol.
     
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    Castiglione also designed the 300 M.

    What I don't get is these guys design a few cars and then move on. Castiglione should be working at FCA designing cars. The 300M and the Challenger were great designs.
     
  18. redriderbob

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    That's because when they closed the Pacifica Design Studio in Carlsbad, California they offered designers positions in Auburn Hills but a lot of them didn't want to move their family across country to a company at the time was dealing with bankruptcy. So some went to other automakers, some to clothing apparel companies and so forth. Remember Chrysler had 50% of their white collar work force take buy outs during the bankruptcy years. That's why when you go to CTC most of the employees are in their early 30s.
     
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    From what I gathered from him, that is why he didn't move when they closed the design studio in California. Our kids were friends and went to school together from 2006-2010. I didn't push him too hard, since it was clear it was a rough time. Real fun guy to talk cars with, though.
     
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  20. adaptabl

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    That's exactly what will happen. Sales and margins will continue to fall to a point the program will be cancelled. Chrysler and Dodge are out of a full lineup and with the remaining cars being so old in design it will cost far too much to bring in new models. FCA will be selling only Jeeps, SUV's and Minivans soon. FIATS never sold and will never sell in the NA market.
     

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