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Chrysler’s “Identity”

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by 1999 White C5 Coupe, Jan 21, 2020.

  1. 77 Monaco Brougham

    77 Monaco Brougham Well-Known Member

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    And then FCA wonders why their attempts to move their products / brands upmarket flop.o_O
     
  2. Adventurer55

    Adventurer55 Well-Known Member

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    I hear quite a bit about late model rattles. What in ones opinion is the biggest cause?
     
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    My 2005 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT is rattle free too. My 2012 Grand Caravan not so much.
     
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  4. Tony K

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    My Challenger had a suspension pop the first year that was resolved in one visit. They had to do something with the cradle, including tightening, but I forget the details. I'd have to dig up the paperwork.
     
  5. jsucha

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    My '19 Charger SXT AWD is rattle free and so was the '16 Charger SXT AWD I previously had. My '16 Ram 1500 has a few dash creaks once in a while in cold weather.
     
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  6. Bajanbuoy

    Bajanbuoy Durango Dave!
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    Junk in cupholders and storage bins....I kid, I kid.
    :p:cool:
     
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  7. aldo90731

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    Interiors made to look like a million bucks...that sound like a million loose pennies.
     
  8. aldo90731

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    The interior of my JL is holding together well...so far.

    Granted, the Jeep has only got 3,300 miles, but that infamous 2018 JKUR Recon was already making all sort of noises by now.
     
  9. valiant67

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    My opinion, somewhere among this:
    1) Poorly designed specs or demanding unreasonably cheap prices from suppliers.
    2) Not enough time spent testing on rough road surfaces at different temperatures.
    3) Ease of manufacture chosen over customer experience.
     
  10. tlc

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    So far my 2016 Dart with 60,000 miles is rattle free.
     
  11. aldo90731

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    4) All of the above
     
  12. rapidtrans

    rapidtrans Well-Known Member

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    Good one but true!
    Considering my 2007 Nitro then three LX cars the only rattles were from crap in the cup holders or storage bins.
    Only recall I had was for a too bright led lamp in the shift lever on my 2012 Charger. Didn’t even bother with that fix.
    Really kind of impressive considering how hard those LX cars rode with the 20” tire package.
     
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  13. aldo90731

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    My dad’s 2013 Dodge Journey is holding together pretty well. It’s got almost 80,000 miles and started developing suspension groans, rattles and noises.

    My 90-year old dad takes his Journey to his “trusted” CDJR dealership because the steering is pulling to the left and to look into the suspension noises. $1,400 later they give him back the wagon without pulling to the left but with all the suspension noises intact. I said to him “basically they charged you $1,400 for an alignment.” He got totally hosed.

    Adamant to get rid of the noises, he brings his Journey to my independent mechanic. They diagnose that the Macphersons need to be replaced: $1,500 for parts and labor. Two days later, and $1,500 poorer, he drives off and voilá, all the suspension noises are gone! “It drives like new! ” he gloats. You can even see that the front end is not sagging any more. He is just delighted.

    That’s probably the last time that CDJR dealer will ever see my dad.
     
  14. Adventurer55

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    Our Commander with over 200,000 miles doesn't have a squeak or rattle. Considering the much maligned interior it still looks good as new. Plain, but new lol.
     
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  15. Tony K

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    HEY...I resemble that remark!!!

    This all boils down to one basic premise: Quality is not "baked in" and it's all caused by the guys at the top. So, in that sense, Sergio is guilty of not making FCA a quality-focused organization. If things turn for the better with Carlos Tavares at the helm, I'll forgive that sin, since SM got FCAs finances right to set the conditions to get us where we are now.
     
  16. Chase300

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    Your dad is still driving at 90???!!!
    Wow.
    BTW, I think he got hosed in both cases.
    $1,500 for a couple struts??? Wow to that too.
     
  17. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
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    I guess they fixed everything after they made mine ;)

    (I heard the 1.4 turbos were really the problem cars for rattles.)
     
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  18. Tony K

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    One of my late Great Uncles, who farmed both with/next to my Dad and Grandpa K, lived to 93, and drove quite well until shortly before he passed Dec 20, 2005 (a date with double meaning to me, I was in Iraq, and it was also someone special's birthday). I think he mostly kept off the Interstate, though.
     
  19. aldo90731

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    Maybe, maybe not. But $1,500 beats buying a new vehicle, and he is happy.
     
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  20. Doug D

    Doug D Virginia Gentleman

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    What exactly did the dealer do for $1400??? And I agree with Chase - $1500 for new struts seems to be on the high side.

    Kudos to your Dad for being able to drive at 90 years of age. My maternal grandfather was a menace behind the wheel in his 70's. My Dad was not bad at 70, but he wasn't great either. Tended to drive too slow.
     

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