Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Ryan, Jun 27, 2019.
Or get SNG seats out of a junkyard car.
Those were under different brands, though, and with at least marginally different styling to differentiate them. My understanding too was that the Grand Caravan has different suspension tuning from the T&C that made them feel quite different.
These have about as much marginally different styling as the Reliant/Aries and Voyager/Caravan.
Mine and my cousins Voyager/Caravan. They were identical other than a rear window defroster and a roof rack that he had that I didn't. I added the bumper uprights myself.
Bonus: on the left you can see the 1993 Voyager we had along with this fleet.
At least they used different grills for the two first gen minivans.
And for Gen 2 minivans they got really ambitious and used different tail lights too (one for Dodge, the other for Plymouth and Chrysler).
Well...when the Caravan and Town & Country was side by side the T&C was just a tarted up Caravan.
It's the same thing with the Voyager/Pacifica now.
They'll probably list model sales separately, but combine the totals like they currently do with the Grand Caravan and Pacifica.
This is big news...it may seem like a minor investment, but it means FCA still wants to invest in the Chrysler brand.
I am also glad they are sticking with Nautical themed nomenclature.
I like the look of the Pacifica...its about as sleek of a design as the Minivan form can get, while still retaining the function of a minivan.
It is like the 2008 design returned to the boxiness of the first/second generations and the Pacifica returned to the rounded, sleek styling of the third generation.
My personal opinion is the 2008's didn't wear the boxy design as well though the updates helped. I also think Pacifica didn't wear the sleek styling as well as the late 90's vans. There's just some odd/unfinished look to me especially at the rear and rear side views.
Well I think this signals the end of the Grand Caravan. I also hope the Pacifica get a good refresh esp the interior. Also why not make the Promaster City a little more pedestrian? Sell it as a small minivan?
The sticker on my 2015 300C was $43000. The sticker on my 2018 Pacifica Ltd is $46000. IMHO, the Pacifica offers so much more than the 300 for a $3000 difference.
The steering wheel and the shifter knob get really hot in the sun. I also do not have a garage. When I leave the Pacifica, I throw a towel over the steering wheel and shifter. Problem solved. BTW, I love the transmission knob. So much easier than a lever and takes much less space.
I dont believe that will fix the part where there is nowhere to fold the seat into.
I was under the impression the bays were built, but the seats were just fixed.
You could be right.... is there someone else who knows for sure??
now just call the base 300 a concorde or acclaim...
Possibly because when it came out in 2017, it didn't have any "budget" trims, like the L and LX. The Touring was the lowest trim, and it was far higher than the AVP/CVP vans that were selling at $20k.
If it's anything like the RT vans, the tubs/bins are in all of the vans, full Stow N Go or not. Several people have installed full Stow N Go.
I'm honestly indifferent to this move.
They now have to introduce people to a "new" model?
This should protect Pacifica values, as fleet orders can go through the LXi trim?
I'm also curious about the "quad seating" on the Voyager LX. Is this second row Stow N Go, or are they middle row bucket seats that don't "stow" in the floor?
They are just regular bucket seats, no stow n go. Only on the fleet only LXi trim.
Or also Spirit, New Yorker, Ambassador, Matador, Fury, Belvedere, LeBaron, Satellite, Coronet, Aries, Reliant, Valiant, Scamp, Newport, Windsor, Seneca, Saratoga, Polara, Monaco, etc...?
This is kind of sad. They are literally just taking the Pacifica L and LX and renaming it to the Voyager. The extent of their investment is going to be some $5 Voyager badges. It will allow them to claim they sell 4 models when in reality they sell 2. Why not rename the Pacifica Hybrid while they're at it?
Shhhhhh! Don't give them any ideas!