AF: Chrysler US sales, 2019 as a whole: some surprises | Page 6 | Allpar Forums
  1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Chrysler US sales, 2019 as a whole: some surprises

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Jan 3, 2020.

  1. vipergg

    vipergg Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2002
    Messages:
    2,682
    Likes:
    828
    I think their problem is everything looks the same . Equinox, Blazer, Trailblazer , Traverse , Malibu . The stuck the same front end on all of them .
     
    Tony K likes this.
  2. Zagnut27

    Zagnut27 Jeepaholic

    Joined:
    Jan 12, 2015
    Messages:
    5,492
    Likes:
    10,776
    It works for Audi....lol. GM, well, not so much.
     
    Tony K likes this.
  3. TheViking

    TheViking Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Messages:
    420
    Likes:
    612
    I test drove the last gen Explorer Sport when my wife was looking for a new car. Honestly the whole thing was a letdown. Drove like a tank, interior was horrible for the money, and they wouldn't come more than 2k off of sticker. The exterior styling is the only thing that keeps that car selling as well as it does IMO.
     
  4. Adventurer55

    Adventurer55 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 9, 2015
    Messages:
    3,336
    Likes:
    4,342
  5. valiant67

    valiant67 ...

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2003
    Messages:
    36,678
    Likes:
    19,424
    The more things change, the more they stay the same.
    * Independent Chrysler built cars and stuck them in holding lots.
    * DCX built cars and stuck them in holding lots.
    * FCA built cars and stuck them in holding lots.
    In each case, incentives, especially to push stock on dealer, rose.
    Then after each time, there was an epiphany: "only build the cars the dealers will take."
    And we are now on 2 out of 3 times this has happened where Chrysler got burned when the market moved away from the large vehicles where all the Chrysler profit is made.By Chrysler I mean the legacy North American brands.
     
    page2171, gforce2002, Tony K and 2 others like this.
  6. Chase300

    Chase300 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2012
    Messages:
    1,706
    Likes:
    1,628
    The same applies to a $60K Expedition I just spent a week with. Jeep Grand Wagoneer can't come soon enough..and I really hope they are available at rental outlets!!!
     
  7. Tony K

    Tony K Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 11, 2019
    Messages:
    872
    Likes:
    1,237
    Funny how that works...or doesn't. :cool:
     
    Zagnut27 likes this.
  8. aldo90731

    Staff Member Level III Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2010
    Messages:
    10,246
    Likes:
    21,524
    Speaking of surprises: FCA sales face a conundrum; it's most profitable vehicles are also its less efficient models.

    The table below shows FCA's US Sales sorted by annual change (left) and by units sold in 2019 (right). Green denotes models that achieve a combined MPG of 25+; red denotes models that do not. As we can see, less efficient vehicles tend to rise to the top, more efficient ones to the bottom.

    This makes sense if we realize that FCA's most profitable vehicles tend to be larger and more expensive, thus less efficient.

    [​IMG]

    Source: Automotive News


    But FCA's zeal for margins is setting it on a collision course with CAFE requirements. FCA already failed to meet 2016 CAFE requirements and had to pay $77M in fines last year. In the last three years FCA's sales have only concentrated more around its gas guzzlers, which makes it more likely that more fines are coming.

    FCA is responding by adding PHEV variants, dropping the V6 from Journey, restricting availability of the V6 on Wrangler and the V8 on 300, and by adding value packages like the just announced Wrangler North and Recon editions offered only with the 2.0T eTorque motor, which is the most efficient gas motor offered on JL.

    Will these be enough to get FCA to pass CAFE requirements? Maybe, maybe not. PHEV sales are a drop in the bucket. Meanwhile, the more FCA sales continue to concentrate around high-margin gas guzzlers, the more difficult this task becomes.
     
    #108 aldo90731, Jan 20, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2020
  9. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
    Staff Member Level III Supporter

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2001
    Messages:
    34,946
    Likes:
    20,642
    This is probably a major reason for going to Peugeot.
     
    Tony K, Zagnut27, page2171 and 3 others like this.
  10. patfromigh

    patfromigh Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2010
    Messages:
    3,558
    Likes:
    3,260
    The Journey is being discontinued. That is why it is offered with limited options. It is NOT because of fleet averages. The next BSG V6 equipped Durango should surpass the the four cylinder Journey for fuel economy. The V8 is offered on two trims of the Chrysler 300, when the car was introduced only the 300C had the Hemi. Today, the 300S also offers the Hemi as an option.

    The V6 is listed as standard on all Wrangler models and trims. Lower line trims don't have the eTorque for 2020, they just have start/stop. The trims that do offer a BSG now offer it on both the four and V6.

    Peugeot doesn't offer any EV technology that FCA doesn't already have access to, except for Punch transaxles. Both companies use a lot of the same vendors. There's no guarantee that Americans will buy Peugeot based vehicles. What can they offer besides bizarre interior features and a very questionable French-Chinese transaxle?
     
    ScramFan likes this.
  11. aldo90731

    Staff Member Level III Supporter

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2010
    Messages:
    10,246
    Likes:
    21,524
    While the V6 is listed as standard on Wrangler with the 6-speed, FCA will "restrict" your order if you want it with the automatic transmission and force you into the 4-cyl. The 2.0T eTorque has emerged as the only engine option on Sahara North and Rubicon Recon special editions.

    We don't really know why FCA dropped the V6 from Journey. Your speculation is as good as mine. But the fact that FCA is actively trying to funnel Wrangler buyers into 4-cyl engines suggests fuel economy is a concern.
     
    #111 aldo90731, Jan 20, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2020
    valiant67 and page2171 like this.

Share This Page

Loading...
 We are not affiliated with FCA. We make no claims regarding validity or accuracy of information or advice. Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.