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Clockspring replaced - Airbag light still on

Discussion in 'Repairs, Maintenance, Help' started by Kevin1990, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. Kevin1990

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    Gent's,

    I replaced the clockspring on my 99 Grand Caravan.

    Disconnected the battery, replaced, reconnected, Airbag light still on.

    *edit* Cruise control and horn works...

    The van starts to be a pain in the....

    Greetings
    Kevin
     
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  2. ImperialCrown

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    Any diagnosis? The AIRBAG light being on can mean a few different things other than the clockspring.
    An advanced scan tool like the DRBIII (or equivalent) may be needed to get the Airbag controller module fault code.
    'Driver side squib' faults can be a clockspring issue. Clocksprings may also act up when the wheel is turned and breaks the connection.
    Did your replacement clockspring match the same part # that you removed?
    Was the Mopar box sealed and anti-tamper/centering seal across the clockspring steering post hole in place?
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    Identifying Airbag problems begins on p. 48 here:
    http://oskin.ru/pub/chrysler-dodge/...Incl/GS_Body_Diagnostic_Procedures/E-GSBD.PDF
    These clocksprings were covered under a lifetime recall in the U.S. I don't know if this applies to you:
    https://www.chrysler.com/universal/webselfservice/pdf/D17.pdf
     
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    The horn stopped working at some point, following by the AIRBAG light...also the cruise control stopped working.

    I purchased a matching "Dorman" unit, fits on 1999 model year.

    Yes it was sealed correctly, all connectors fitted perfect as they should.

    Also the horn and cruise control works again, but i have to check the codes for the Airbag light...

    The lifetime warranty does not cover my van because the U.S. embassy used it before, means they purchased it in the states and shipped it to Austria...
     
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  4. ImperialCrown

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    So this is the Dorman part number 525-100?
     
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    Yes exactly
     
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    We need the fault code.
     
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    In a few hours i'll have it...

    The airbag connector seems to fit in both directions....maybe this is the issue?

    I'll try it...
     
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    The airbag in the steering pad shouldn't have polarity, but I have always seen them with the wiring pigtail facing downwards similar to this dual stage unit:
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    If the plastic squib connector is keyed, it should only go on one way. There is a shorting bar that drops onto the 2 gold airbag terminals once it is disconnected. This is for safety while the airbag is unplugged.
    Always follow all airbag service cautions and warnings to prevent accidental airbag deployment during handling. They can deploy like a 'shotgun' and cause unintended injury and/or damage.
     
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    Just checked it, connector only fits in one direction (like the old one pointing away from the bar code) because the wire would be to short the other way.

    No luck on the codes yet, scan tool does not cover my vehicle....have to visit the dealer at monday.
     
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    Update here...

    It shows "short in airbag detonator"...

    Possible that the new clock spring is bad?
     
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    Possible, but unlikely, because the clockspring usually fails open-circuit. Maybe the detonator in the airbag itself is bad, or the mechanism that fires it is shorted.
     
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    The Driver's side is shorted and not the passenger side, correct?
    Any wiring pinched or rubbed through in the column or lower dash area?
    With the battery disconnected for a few minutes, follow the appropriate test in the manual link that I posted in post # 2.
    An ohmmeter should locate the short by narrowing it down to the source. It is possibly the airbag itself?
    Make sure that the shorting bar that I mentioned in post # 8 didn't get bent down when pushing on the connector. Plugging in the connector should lift it off the airbag terminals instead.
     
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    Thank you, i'll try my best!

    The van starts to get quite annoying i have to say.
     
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    I forgot, yes only the drivers side...

    The connector plugged in a bit hard, not as perfect as the original one.
     
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    Gent's, the new clock spring was bad. Airbag connector was broken inside causing it to short....new Airtex Wells unit ordered (it has the heart symbol on Rockauto, so it has to be good :))
     
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