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Companies that used to great....but not now.

Discussion in 'Off Topic But Still Civil' started by voiceofstl, Jun 6, 2020.

  1. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    I see all these late night commercials from Bell&Howell for all kinds of stuf. What they sell is mostly chinise junk.
    Other companys that were cutting edge are companys like Westinghouse and RCA which now sell the cheapest TVs at walmart.
    Craig car radios were the best in the 60's now its a joke.

    Any other companys we can think of??
     
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  2. patfromigh

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    Whatever is left of Kodak, GE and Ansaldo Breda.
     
  3. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
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    Motorola, dead and the remains sold to China
    GE parts which were sold to China. (The remains of GE that are in the US are pretty high tech stuff).
    Some of Philips (not the lighting, though).
    KitchenAid, now Whirlpool junk.
    IBM
    Frigidaire
    Black & Decker (now a brand used by a Chinese company)
    Amana (the Radar Range people, now just a brand of Haier)
    To some degree, Sony
    Hewlett-Packard, by comparison with what they were in the 1970s and 1980s
    AT&T
    Steelcase
    Master (locks)
    Most Bells
    Harvard
     
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    Right now, I'm looking for a grate big vise to mount on my drilling machine. Back in the day, Wilton was THE brand of vise to buy. But today, their stuff is made in China and is only moderately better than the Harbor Freight vises. Vost and the rest of the previous American vise makers are no better and often worse than Wilton. That's so sad because their old stuff was practically indestructible. I have a Wilton Scout vise in my shop from the 1950's and it's as good as the day they made it.
     
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  5. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    Harvard lol....and Yale
     
  6. Dave Z

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    I'll go with Yale.
     
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  7. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    since this a car site....everytime suspncion come up everyone says get MOOG.
    Is moog still US made? Is it good?
     
  8. Scrounge

    Scrounge Got parts?

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    Craftsman tools. Used American-made ones are asking premium prices at swap meets.
     
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    Here's a hometown product, Kurt Industrial Products Division - 9445 East River Road NW | Minneapolis, Minnesota 55433
     
  10. 06PTElectricBlue

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    Yep, Craftsman tools used to be the brand to get!

    Then, many years ago, Home Depot had a trade in program where you could bring in your old Craftsman tools and trade them in for new Husky brand tools, because they were so confident in the Husky brand.

    So I got a whole bunch of new Husky tools, that have held up just fine for me. :)
     
  11. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    Yep craftsman were good. But I think alot of folks got them because a sears were always near by, and if they broke you could go there and get a free replacement easly.
     
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    What was done to sears should be criminal...
     
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    I think a shorter list might be, which companies AREN’T junk now.
     
  14. MJAB

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    Black & Decker it is now owned by a chinese company, but by a U.S.A. multinational, that, in pefect "consumeristic" style make tools that in their managerial ideal vision is "use it few time and throw it".
    To make even more money they externalize production as much as possible and make production only of some products (Nike business model, externalize almost all and keep only core specific manufacturing).

    The company is now named Stanley Black & Decker, Inc., headquarter New Britain, Connecticut, U.S.A..
    The y do a lot of different business.

    Some of their brands, including some that are lowering as quality since years:

    DeWalt – power tools; B & D acquired in 1960
    Porter-Cable – power tools; B & D acquired in 2004
    Oldham Saw Company – circular saw blade and wood router bit products; B & D acquired in 2004
    Black & Decker – acquired (via merger) in 2010
    Pastorino – carpentry and construction hand tools
    Stanley Hand Tools – carpentry and construction hand tools
    Craftsman
    Irwin Industrial Tools
    Cribmaster – tool inventory, storage, tracking and usage/vending management
    Expert – industrial and automotive tools
    Facom (France) – professional tools; acquired in 2006 (includes Britool[36])
    Lista North America – industrial storage; acquired in 2012
    Mac Tools – professional tools; acquired in 1980
    Proto – industrial hand tools; acquired in 1984
    Blackhawk – Mechanic's tools; acquired in 1986
    Sidchrome (Australia/New Zealand) – mechanics' tools; acquired in 1990
    USAG (Italy) – professional tools
    Vidmar – industrial storage; acquired in 1966
    Virax (France) – plumbing tools; acquired in 2006

    and many many others.

    Usually they start introducing "consumers / cheaper" lines in their product portfolio, than they start to "revise" they main traditional products.

    I used to buy Black&Decker portable drills (cord ones) ... after uhmm 20 years when I purchased a cordless one, not even so low in price... well the worst drill ever used.

    Same happened also to Stanley, but it started even years and years before it was acquired by Black & Decker.
     
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    Never heard and never saw. People here are using Hilti or Deutsche [person who likes a particular brand]s with Bosch German quality. Of course Makita is also choice for some.
     
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    I know Hilti, also remember because it is a Liechtenstein company, there are not so much... well is a very small country.

    Makita I know well, I purchased one of theit portable drills to substitute the Black&Decker one.
    But it seems to me that for some products they also lowered overall quality, well it what looks to me as I used some before.

    I think in FCA are used many Makita portable tools, if I remember well from plant videos.

    As for hand tolls or components, many times I prefer to buy old used ones.
     
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    I still use my Craftsman drill bought new in 1975.
    Also still use my Craftsman saw, bought a year later.
    As backups, have my dad’s Craftsman stuff from the mid 50s. They are all polished aluminum!
     
  18. voiceofstl

    voiceofstl Well-Known Member

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    Lets not get to nostalgic...My dads Craftsman polished aluminum drill is pretty but it is heavy and it has less then half the power of modern drills, but th\ey do last a long time
     
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    Yeah, those tools were built for real men to handle... :cool:
     
  20. Scrounge

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    The Den of Tools on Youtube occasionally shows tool comparisons. Even the feel of a current Craftsman wrench seems wrong to him. Yes, you can still get a free replacement under warranty, but it seems you'll have to more often these days.

    I read that a new Craftsman factory was being constructed near Fort Worth, Texas. It should have been up and running by now, but maybe later this year.

    Agreed about Sears. Their former store in Taylor, Texas is now an antique mall. I wonder what THEY charge for American-made Craftsman tools. I occasionally bought a Craftsman wrench or socket in a size I was missing from a swap meet or flea market, but the vast majority of my tool purchases were from Sears. They occasionally offered some decent sale prices on sets, especially during Turkey Day weekend. These days, though, stores that sell Craftsman seem to be banking on the name. They need to realize that there's currently a lot of competition in the tool trade.
     

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