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Consumer Reports Picks Chrysler 300 over Lexus LS

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by HoboChangba, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. unverferth

    unverferth Well-Known Member

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    Still a great looking car.
     
  2. HoboChangba

    HoboChangba Well-Known Member

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    It's funny but the cars with the largest resale value aren't Chrysler 300's. Always articles pop up and it's always BMW's, Audis. Mercedes. Jaguars et al. Some serious depreciation (maybe that's why a great many people only lease them).
     
  3. valiant67

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    If a car has poor resale value then it is not a good candidate for a lease because the payment will be larger, unless the manufacturer is subsidizing the lease.
     
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  4. HoboChangba

    HoboChangba Well-Known Member

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    Luxury makes usually have a fairly large percentage of lease deals since they cost so much. Leasing is always letting people into cars that a fair amount of time they really couldn't afford if buying outright. They too have big bucks on the hood. They just don't advertise it like the regular brands.
     
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  5. aldo90731

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    Indeed. Plus most luxury automobiles depreciate like a rock. Last time I checked, 80% of Audi and Infiniti's business, 60% of BMW, 50% of Mercedes were leases.

    The two luxury automakers with the lowest lease penetration were Lexus and Acura. Incidentally, they have a stronger durability reputation, which makes them good candidates to hold onto after the warranty runs out.

    Having said that, Acura has been doing very poorly on the JD Power VDS (Vehicle Dependabililty Study) in recent years.
     
  6. HoboChangba

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    It's funny but my son works at a body shop across the street from an Acura and Nissan dealer.They do all their body work and a bunch of mechanical work as well for them. The one constant is how poor the paint is on a bunch of Acura's. Especially the past two years. Always doing repaints on cars less than three years old and sometimes get them right off the truck. Something is going on there. My son is surprised because of always hearing about their quality. He's not seeing it as much again over the past two years. Won't even go into Nissan. He pretty much doesn't like them. All kinds of problems. Especially electronics / sensors and programming.
     
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    This is awesome never thought I would see this! Thanks for sharing !
     
  8. Bearhawke

    Bearhawke Things happen for a reason

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    And the irony is that it may be the FIAT division who winds up leaving the US market.
     
  9. Bearhawke

    Bearhawke Things happen for a reason

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    Lexus IMHO lost its way, compared to 1990 or at least when the 2007 LS cheapened the earlier models. Why I say that is, despite new car teething troubles; by around 1992 the Lexus LS400 was proving to be a (potentially) deadly threat to Mercedes Benz, since that rebadged Toyota Celsior basically offered a better S Class and, for much less $ than the top Mercedes.
     
  10. Bearhawke

    Bearhawke Things happen for a reason

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    And the standing joke is that Lexus basically used the 1960-61 Plymouth Fury/Savoy front grille.
     
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  11. Bearhawke

    Bearhawke Things happen for a reason

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  12. Bearhawke

    Bearhawke Things happen for a reason

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    I'm guessing I'm one of the outliers here, if discussing that opulent family room. Admittedly; I'm prejudiced in favor to the amber/burnt orange/gold colors. I'd prefer said family room if it was a touch less fussy with the textures of the floor,walls and ceiling...........
     
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  13. Morty

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    Better looking that the present horrible front end:)
     
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  14. jerseyjoe

    jerseyjoe Plymouth Makes It

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    Find a good dealership, I didn't. Car is going on its third abs sensor and rattles galore.
     
  15. Citation84

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    OMG. That awful Yeti Cooler console. Stop it. Just stop it.
     
  16. Citation84

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    It at least has a clearly defined shape
     
  17. Citation84

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    Amen, brother.

    Part of the reasons sedans are being replaced by CUVs. Not even the illusion of roominess any longer. Just fat: consoles, A,B,C pillars. Fastback roof line, suck rear headroom, not even a hatch to compensate for that stupid "coupe-like" roof, narrow side windows, awkward trunks.
     
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    Does the name "Diamante" strike a familiar note ? I think Genesis will end the same way
     
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  19. aldo90731

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    Hyundai has already shown a lot more commitment towards Genesis than Mitsubishi ever did towards Diamante.
     
  20. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
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    FWIW, Diamonte was created by Chrysler Australia, after acquisition by Mitsu, which probably did not help. NIH.
     

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