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Dart, 200 “to run their course”

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Dave Z, Jan 27, 2016.

  1. Ian

    Ian Car Freak

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    I did not realize the Contour sold more than the cloud cars. I always thought it with the opposite. I guess in my area, the Clouds were much more popular (seems Chrysler vehicles are always more popular in Canada) than the Contour.

    People that I know who had Contours had nothing but headaches.
     
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  2. BGWheelhorse

    BGWheelhorse Well-Known Member

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    As Ian said, Chrysler sells better in Canada. I wonder why?
     
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  3. jerseyjoe

    jerseyjoe Plymouth Makes It

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    Original Cloud cars are still running around here. Can't say i have seen a Countour for a while. Might have seen a Mystique or two thinking it was a GM car.
     
  4. red-jk

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    With a Fiat-brand D-sedan for China, and a replacement for the Chinese Viaggio/Ottimo on the horizon could GAC be the partner that SM has talked about to supply a 200 and Dart replacement, and not Mazda, Mitsubishi or Suzuki?
     
  5. Adventurer55

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    It's been 30 plus years since I've been to Canada, but whether they are more nationalistic, or some other reason. Chrysler is held in much higher regard there. If anything, friends up north chime in here, I think Chrysler is held in even higher regard now maybe more so then back then.
     
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  6. freshforged

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    hope not! Much rather partner with Suzuki for a whole host of reasons
     
  7. Adventurer55

    Adventurer55 Well-Known Member

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    Me either, but with the company held with such little regard in these two car lines, at least if they are made in China they could almost give them away and still make money.:D
     
  8. Ian

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    Chrysler has some sort of respect that it doesn't get in the states. We don't see Chrysler vehicle has being junk and most people who have Chryslers will return for another. I speak for the majority of what I see and experience. I think we might have a better dealership network as well. I've heard of only one bad dealer (which I used to work for) that is bad in my 150km radius. The dealer we bought our last 4 cars have been amazing.
     
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  9. 97 plymouth neon expresso

    97 plymouth neon expresso Well-Known Member

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    "The dealer we bought our last 4 cars have been amazing."

    If only we could say that about more than just a few select dealers.
     
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  10. Dave Z

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    Domestics do better in Canada because of high import duties on cars outside of NAFTA.
     
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  11. TripleT

    TripleT Allpar Legacy

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    There was a real error in not just bring the Mondeo which is quite a nice car
    Hmmm I would suppose how well the Buick does... the quality issues were daunting 10 years ago but the Chinese have raised there expectation a lot since then... Good resin and good steel is still a issue and would have to be monitored very closely.
     
  12. grungerockjeeper

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    It isnt. My sis had a Supra, with clearcoat peeling on the roof and spoiler. My dad went to the local 'yota service dept to see if there was any kind of recall on the paint (pre 'net days)... The reaction was that they were insulted at the idea that someone had the gall to suggest a Toyota could possibly have problems. No more Japanese cars for us....

    Non car people. Consumers. The perspective is completely different than customers and enthusiasts. Theyre perfectly happy to let service techs dictate what 'needs' work, and pay the price. On top of that, they're acutally gung ho about the whole 'no haggle' pricing scheme. You can get that anywhere, if you simply pay the sticker price without trying to negotiate. End result is you WILL pay more, but history shows that casual consumers are perfectly fine with that. Me personally...EVERYTHING is negotiable and I look forward to the whole dance.
     
  13. Stratuscaster

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    Dealer experience is indeed important - but until you can actually get butts in the seats in the showroom, it's not a factor at that point.
     
  14. Ian

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    I didn't know that.

    I do know that, when you talk about Chrysler, generally, it is positive. Most people here have a positive view on the automaker. There is still that swear it is junk.
     
  15. Dave Z

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    Perhaps it's positive because more people have recent experience and aren't going by something that happened to their 1976 Volare or early-run 1995 Neon.
     
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    Honda does very well in Canada too. I think Canadians overall are in love with their RAM trucks, they seem to be everywhere here. Even to the point, the local GM dealership keeps slightly used '15 RAMs and Cherokees in stock to sell.

    Wil
     
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    I had a '98.5 Contour Sport SE with the small V-6 and it was an outstanding car. I sold it after I purchased the Magnum, but immediately regretted it. My neighbors got good use of it for several years after they bought it, until the transmission went at about 280,000 kms or 174,000 miles. The Ford Customer Service was excellent as well, even when it was only recall service.
     
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  18. JavelinAMX

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    I sense the discussion that was active last year, and months prior, in the "Death of ..." threads is merely unfolding now. Gradually, for sure.

    It doesn't seem the brands and models have the roots they once had. The 200 and Dart have for the time being been re-routed to a secondary manufacturer. Unless there will be yet another juke and head-fake, these models are heading toward a looser and looser tie to the homestead . Indeed they are names now.
     
  19. jerseyjoe

    jerseyjoe Plymouth Makes It

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    Saw a black Dart Aero at the mall, very empressive looking, the color took away all its akwardness. So much so I prced it on line. Verry well equipped with auto stick $22k, not bad, would talk with several dealers ot get my best price, like I always do.

    Big issue for nube shopper, when I did an inventory search it showed all models as an exact match. A new customer would skip this car and maybe Dodge. Had a lifelong MOPAR compact car owner who switched to Ford cause the dealer did not know how to order a manual trans.

    Web searching is how nubes locate a vehicle. I have struggeled with these websites since Daimler daze! FCA is no better actually The Jeep site convinced me that it was fixed.
    Wassupwitdat?
     
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