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Dodge Challenger

Discussion in 'New Challenger, 300, Magnum, Charger' started by hemi_magnum, Nov 21, 2005.

  1. angus

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    I was at the auto show in Chicago. The Challenger looked AWESOME !!!!! The Dodge rep I talked to said no manual is slated for production. SRT or RT no manual. This blows my mind. I hope he was not serious.
     
  2. woodstock

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    I think that a lot of people bashing the interior are forgetting how quickly the Challenger has come to market. Of course they used the Charger interior as a baseline. Otherwise, the Challenger would cost more and take longer to get into production. This is simple economics, leverage what you have. Why is everyone surprised? Would they rather sit around and wait another year - and pay more? This is a fledgling vehicle.

    Yes, I would like a better interior, maybe with a rallye dash, or one from the concept - but I'm glad the car is here at all. Maybe we can get an interior makeover in 2010 (when the convertible comes out).
     
  3. georgejetson

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    Manual -- with a modernized pistol grip shifter -- will be available on R/Ts and SRTs in 09. Official Chrysler info, "insider" info of various kinds, and spy pix all confirm this.
     
  4. Dave Z

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    Not official yet...
     
  5. georgejetson

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    Maybe not for mass-market consumption, but it has been announced to the dealers, or so a source tells me. That counts.
     
  6. JohnRogers

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    He might have been serious, he even may have been right but more likely he is a fool who knows less than this forums readership.
     
  7. oh2o

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    It's those "1/3" of the parts that might have made all the difference between an "ok" interior and one that would have had a far more positive reception.
     
  8. TurboAWD

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    The interior is fine, its your perception (of their past interiors) thats making you think "cheap" before you even sit in it. Go look at what Debrah Meyer means to change with the upcoming marketing campaign.
     
  9. oh2o

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    I had to LOL at that one. Bringing out the Challenger without a manual would have been akin to bringing out an all-new Grand Cherokee without 4WD. Or a Viper with an auto-only, or a family minivan without a 3rd row seat. The official announcement of the Challenger manual models is just weeks away. You can 100% count on both the 2009 R/T and SRT models offering a TREMEC 6-speed manual tranny. Bet the farm!! If you don't live on a farm, bet everything you own!
     
  10. oh2o

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    I agree that the interior is "fine", even without having to sit in it. I, and many others, based on all of the pre-hype, were simply hoping for a little better than just "fine". The Debrah Meyer campaign has nothing whatsoever to do with the Challenger, and I really doubt that throwing in a few extra options here and there is going to have any impact on bringing new buyers into the showroom, let alone altering the "poor interior" image that Chrysler has carried on their backs for so long.
     
  11. TurboAWD

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    The "reps" at these shows aren't actual Dodge Reps. They are kids (usually college business/marketing students) hired by subcontracted marketing companies. Ive worked autoshows for Nissan and done Toyota 4X4 track events...you would be surprised by some of the morons that end up representing these brands. We had one kid telling every person that hopped in the 07 Tundra that its iForce 5.7 had 430HP.... :rolleyes:
    Some would just hand them a brochure and go back to text messaging their friends....DO NOT believe a word from these guys.
     
  12. Stratuscaster

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    Like I said before - the non-Allparian, non-enthusiast, non-journalist, "regular people" I talked to at the show had no complaints about the Challenger's interior.

    If you personally don't like the interior, wait for the next one. And make viable suggestions for what you want to see.

    While some of the "reps" at the show are kids, a good chunk are local dealer salespeople and employees. Ask all the questions you want, but follow it up with your own research.
     
  13. fastway

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    When the styling folks hands are tied with a carryover instrument cluster, radio, steering wheel, column, lower ip (glove box and knee blocker), driver and passenger airbag, hvac unit and controls, etc...... , there's not a whole lot of room for stylistic freedom there. These are the parts that take longer to develop. I disagree that there are no styling cues carried over from the concept. Look at the shape of the cluster brow and the shape of the door trim panels. Very concept-like and very retro to the original.
     
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    The last interior picture shown looked fine by me, and as stated, not being able to sit inside and feel the quality is the only lacking thing besides one other thing. I like the gage layout, but it is still missing two things: amp gage (or voltmeter as some prefer), and good old oil pressure. I do like the fact the water temperature actually has numbers on it, which does show a little more attention to detail than just C | | | | H.

    Tremac 6 speed. Is that also going to be available for the 3.5, or is that going to turn out to be a Tremac 5 speed? More curious than anything, not really an automatic man unless it is the 727s.
     
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    Went to the CAS on Saturday. The stars of the how were (IMO) the Challenger and the ZR1. The Challenger just looks mean. I personally thought the interior was ok. the materials LOOKED fine, the overall design was fine by me. True it wasn't new CTS quality or appearance (that I could see) but I would not have a problem cruising, or in the words of the Boss, "Beyond the palace, hemi powered drones, scream down the boulevard" Man, I am SOOOOO torn between the Challenger and the Camaro.
     
  16. oh2o

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    The TREMEC 6-speed will only be available on the R/T & SRT; the base model will only offer the 4-speed 42RLE.
     
  17. Dave Z

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    The base model is a true base model!
     
  18. chazcron

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    The video everybody wants:

    The intro video with everything edited out except the black Challenger, ENJOY:

    Black Challenger Video
     
  19. bigdaddywiz

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    after looking at that red challenger R/T that leaked in late January with the manual, I'm thinkin the silver around the gauges is for the '09 models. i dont know if someone said that already, but for those of us that liked more silver around the gauge area, i think it will be standard on the '09 interior. i'm hoping at least, but if not no big deal for me.
     
  20. Jared

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    ENOUGH WITH THE @#[email protected]$!!!!! INTERIOR!!!

    WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT? THE SEAT COME OUT OF THE CAR AND ESCORT YOU IN? THIS IS A MUSCLE CAR, NOT A LEXUS!!!

    ANYBODY EVER REMEMBER RIDING IN THE ORIGINAL MOPAR MUSCLE CARS? ANYBODY? ANYBODY??????!!!! OBVIOUSLY NOT--

    I DID... AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIME THAT SILVER ACCENT IN THE BENCH SEAT OF MY MOM'S 72 ROAD RUNNER BRANDED MY BACK IN HOT WEATHER!!! I HAD TO GET A SPATULA TO PEEL MY LEGS OFF OF THE VINYL BLACK BENCH... AIR CONDITIONING? CLIMATE CONTROL? CD,MP3 RADIO... PLEASE... ALL I HAD WAS AM-- AND I WAS THANKFUL!!!

    THE INTERIOR OF THE NEW CHALLENGER IS LIKE A LOUNGE SUIT COMPARED TO THE OLDER ONES...
     

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