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FCA+GM+VW

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by Dave Z, Mar 7, 2017.

  1. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
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  2. Erik Latranyi

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    Oh boy.........
     
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  3. 77 Monaco Brougham

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    Bottle of Kaopectate for Mr. Marchionne ! ! !:p:D

    But seriously.......Sweet Jesus.....Here we go again!
    Just what the company needs......MORE DISTRACTIONS!
     
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  4. Ian

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    Wow that guy needs to keep his mouth shut for a bit...
     
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  5. Dave Z

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    I don't think he'd say yes to VW...
     
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  6. James A

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    I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. Just bring the Giorgio Charger/Chally then do whatever.
     
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  7. Erik Latranyi

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    VAG gets Fiat/Lancia and runs them as focused brands in certain European countries.

    VAG gets Ram/Dodge/Chrysler and runs them as focused brands in North America

    Agnelli's keep Alfa/Maserati/Ferrari
     
  8. James A

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    I'd rather be with GM
     
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  9. Illegal Machine

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    Just get it over with or zip it.
     
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    I met a girl like SM when I was young...unable to shut up or get a hint...
     
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    GM gives us nothing we need now. The only real benefit might have been small car platforms, but since those were all designed by Opel that down the drain. Other than a foot in the door for China, GM has no real presence overseas. Overlap in trucks is clear and intractable. GM has WAY too much capacity in the US, and since FCA is dealing with the capacity issues with the factory swap its just another liability going forward. What FCA really needs is the one thing it can't get--Suzuki. VW would marginally better in terms of overlap with Chrysler but horrible for Fiats future and as a result is likely a non-starter.

    Powertrains however would be a different matter. They could come up with a co-development deal with GM and do quite well. Small Block Hemi? Hybrid and electric powertrains? Take the best of FCAs ZF transmissions and merge them with GMs? Purchasing power to get higher quality components at cost. The ability to insource more component manufacturing/design? Can't stop the winning here.
     
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  13. valiant67

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    Suppose the family doesn't want to be in charge? What if they just want a pile of cash to go away and play where the investment spending isn't so high and the margins so small (both things Sergio has complained about)?

    Or it's all idle talk as a distraction, much like it appears "Dodge Neon" was.
     
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    That Sergio criticizing Mary due to GM keeping $6.5 billion underfunded Opel/Vauxhall legacy pensions, while paying $3 billion to fund the more minor & future pension obligations that PSA will takeover.

    It more like GM is paying PSA $10 billion for Opel.
     
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  16. mopar22

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    Vw would be the best deal for all involved due to less overlap. The new mqb platform the gti and other cars are on over there is a great platform to share on.
     
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  17. 77 Monaco Brougham

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    When you think about it....being a player in the automotive sector is like being a member in a VERY exclusive club. You stay a member sometimes for reasons of ego and prestige and power.....even though the financial benefits could be much better elsewhere. Maybe THAT'S what keeps the Agnellis in the game.

    Why do you think people run for seats in high political office? It was once said that the US Senate was the world's most exclusive men's club.;)
     
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    VW is too many politics and approval time.
     
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    ... And don't believe the hype about MQB. It has not delivered for VW.
     
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    It won't happen... maybe an agreement to spend money to design platforms like diamond star alliance with Mitsubishi.
     
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