Agree with what you have to say. I also believe that it is far too early to be calling the Gladiator a flop (if you read what some here are saying). I agree that this product will need some additional time to hit its stride. Quality is a sticking point for Jeep. JK demand was so high that Jeep kind of brushed off the need to improve. The JL unfortunately hit the market with issues out for the box that should have never ever happened. Even though it was delayed was it rushed to market? Regardless the quality issue has tarnished the image of the Wrangler and Jeep despite all that it has going for it. Has this rolled over into the JT?? It appears there are some but fortunately I am not part of that group. I wish we were able to get monthly sales numbers. Now we have to sit on our hands for 3 months to see if things are ticking up or down. Guess this conversation will spring back to life first week in April.