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Goodbye Hemi and the 300c?

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by CDJSalesPro, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. CDJSalesPro

    CDJSalesPro Well-Known Member

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    According to Dealer Connect configurator there will be no "C" and there are no V8 options on the Chrysler 300 in 2020.........


    Am I missing something????


    Journey is no longer v6 or AWD and now the 300 has no C or v8 model?

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  2. aldo90731

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    And 90% of available JLs are now 4-cylinders.

    My guess is FCA got tired of paying millions in fines for missing CAFE requirements.

    I can see Jeep dropping the V6 from JL in a year or two citing “low sales”.
     
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  3. hmk123

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    The times they are a changing... we knew the party will eventually end and I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future Dodge V8s will command a hefty premium (which might already be built into the Hellcat)...
     
  4. 77 Monaco Brougham

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    Is AWD still being offered on the 300?

    Also...could they possibly be thinking of offering a turbocharged GSE l-4 in the 300?
     
  5. mopar22

    mopar22 Well-Known Member

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    No way they would throw an engine in for a year or two when they would have to pay a ton of fees then
     
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  6. Mark Powers

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    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    We love our 300C Hemi!!! Also had a 300S Hemi..We would buy a 2020 300 Hemi but now,omg!!!!
     
  7. Mark Powers

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    I hope you're wrong......
     
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  8. mopar22

    mopar22 Well-Known Member

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    Just curios but why not buy a 19 or even a used one since not much has changed?
     
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  9. valiant67

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    That is the problem.
    The times are changing yet FCA chooses to hang onto old modestly updated vehicles until every drop of goodwill is wrung from the vehicle name rather than adding new models to replace these dinosaurs - new models that would be more in line with customer expectations for 2020..
     
  10. valiant67

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    I looked at the EPA website and there are no 2020 model year L cars listed yet, V6 or V8.
     
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  11. patfromigh

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    The New Chargers, Challengers and 300s coming off the trucks at work are still 2019 models. Last night I delivered two new 2019 Chargers to our airport location. Both had only two miles on the odometer.

    BTW The Hemi 300C is listed in the 2020 MY Fleet buyers guide.
     
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  12. Chase300

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    If you search for used '17-'19 300s' or C's you will only find maybe 10% or less have the Hemi. So they haven't built very many with the Hemi for a while now.
     
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  13. aldo90731

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    That’d be another 10% in sales decline right there. In addition to the steady decline already taking place.
     
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  14. valiant67

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    2020 production of the L cars has not started yet, and won't for a little over a week from now. Really late, mid-November instead of the traditional mid-August change..
     
  15. Dave Z

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    Interesting. Could be, with regard to both 300 and Journey, that nobody was really buying the bigger engine. If you want muscle, you get the Charger, right? 292 horses is really enough with the eight-speed, for most people. The Hemi doesn't add _that_ much more (in terms of instant-response feel) until you get up to the 6.4. I suspect that's why it was, for a time, on the road to being phased out.
     
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  16. mentalicca

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    @Dave Z, to your point the Durango/Caravan/Pacifica probably cannibalized the sales of Journey V6. Want V6 power and 3 rows, your cheapest option is the Caravan. Want lots of room and comfort, go with the Pacifica. Still want an SUV, go with the Durango.

    Kinda sad because it wasn't a terrible vehicle before it got relegated to fleet/subprime duties. But the lack of any significant updates has definitely eroded any interest in Journey save for a cheap 3 row to get into.

    I was really hopeful when the SRT mules were out testing (years back) that there were some fun surprises in store for it.

    Back to the 300, I do sincerely hope to see the 300 continue (even if spiritually) on. It's a great vehicle that has a couple huge benefits over the Charger, the sunroof and headroom in the rear.
     
  17. Ryan

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    They are still showing the V8 in the lineup in the 2020 300 order guide.
     
  18. Mark Powers

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    Hi, for one if we cant find the color/options we order ours(I would find out the last ordering days for the 2020 unless a 2021 was confirmed but say 2020 is last of the 300).. Also for tax purposes it doesn't make sense to get rid of our 2018 for a 2019 right now..but it works for us to get a 2020(I bought a new Challenger SRT)..And it works better the later on in the year Aug/Sept. as we pay cash and have no car payments/don't want to dip into savings or my checkbook that's for her shoes and my older Mopar's and I forgot our kids need school/sport/kid stuff stuff during the year....That's why..

    Our 2018 has 50,000 trouble free miles,next year 80,000 miles also ensures my Wife of no issues..Also,she is only working 3 days max per week next year so commute will be shorter..Hey,she is the accountant she knows how the system works...She saved me money when we met lol..

    I read a review already last month on the 2020 Chrysler 300 and they tested one and said the Hemi will return for 2020 so I wasn't concerned about ordering or looking for one this year,though reasons above I don't know if I would have bought one,could have..She even likes the sound of the V8,so a 6cyl is a no go..Yes we drove one her parents bought a all wheel drive 300 and we drove it many times too

    Hope that answers your question,to be short,tax purposes and money..that's why no new 2019 as of now for us..Sorry,my mind keeps going and once I start writing I cant stop..Go ahead ask me another question,be prepared for a long answer lol!
     
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  19. HoboChangba

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    Sad if that is true. The Pentastar does move the 300 pretty well though. 0-60 in mid 6's is pretty darned for a car that size / weight.
     
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  20. edvan

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    Not my experience. I had 2008 300C hemi and then a 2015 300C with the V6. I put 90000 miles on the 2008 and only remember a few times when more than a light touch on the petal was needed. That hemi had instant torque. I never drove a 300 with the hemi and the 8 speed, but that thing must be instant fast.
     
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