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Goodbye Hemi and the 300c?

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by CDJSalesPro, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. Tony K

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    That speaks volumes.
     
  2. Tin Man 2

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    My Daughter had 4 Journeys 3 R/T and ! G/T, I had 2 Journeys 1 R/T and ! G/T, all these vehicles were V6 AWD with leather and fairly loaded. Every one was a great vehicle and an exceptional value. Both our family’s may have to look to other brands to get a simalar vehicle. P.S. We turned in our latest Journey AWD G/T and got a Compass Limited, more Money for less vehicle.
     
  3. dakrt99

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    How can anyone be surprised? Chrysler will be gone by 2025-2030. The writing is on the wall. It's easier to phase things out before killing the brand, less shock. You can offer up all the rationalizations and excuses you want, but get use to the idea that Chrysler will be eliminated. It's sad seeing Chrysler die on the vine.
     
  4. aldo90731

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    I picked up a new Wrangler JL this weekend. The salesman said FCA is not allowing dealers to order the V6 any more; the only exception being with the manual transmission.
     
  5. hmk123

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    Sounds like: “Eat your vegetables”. I really don’t get the logic. If I look at the window sticker of a 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder Unlimited the 4 gets less miles on the highway (22 vs 23) but obviously better city mileage (21 vs 17). Fuel and emissions ratings have a delta of one (4 vs 3) on that scale they use. Are Wranglers really being driven in cities all day where this is making a huge difference?
     
  6. aldo90731

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    My guess is it has more to do with meeting CAFE requirements. FCA sales are heavily tilted towards Ram pickups, Wranglers and Grand Cherokees, resulting in two consecutive years failing to meet CAFE requirements, and having to pay millions in fines.

    Anything they can do to help meet that average number saves them millions down the road.

    Sales of Fiats, Renegades and Compasses keep declining, so they can’t help improve those CAFE numbers.
     
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  7. Tony K

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    What part of Carlos Tavares' "no brands are going away" speech did you not get?
     
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    If Mitsubishi can slap the Eclipse name on a crossover, why not Chrysler do the same with the 300?

    300 Town & Country ...2 iconic marquees on one vehicle.
     
  9. aldo90731

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    The 300 Town & Country Imperial Edition...with optional LED opera lights and vegan Corinthian leatherette.
     
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  10. Ryan

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    That seems odd considering they just added a 3.6 with eTorque to the Sahara lineup for 2020.
     
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  11. HotCarNut

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    I'm wondering if the salesman was confused and you can no longer order the V6 without e-Torque for a limited period. Would be shocked if they were putting a permanent hold on ordering the V6 in any configuration, but they are getting ready to do a big run of the 3L diesels for the US launch of that version....
     
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  12. Ryan

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    V6 with eTorque is only available on Sahara, so you wouldn't be able to get the V6 on the Sport, Sport S, or Rubicon. But I'm thinking you're probably right. I haven't seen anything about a permanent hold on V6 ordering. In fact, we have a 2020 Sport V6 in transit.
     
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  13. aldo90731

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    I can’t speak about my salesman’s cognitive abilities; although he seemed to be on top of everything.

    At first I thought given that FCA switched JL’s engine lineup, dealers were ordering mostly 4-cyl. But my salesman explained that FCA is simply not allowing dealers to order the V6 on anything other than manual transmissions.

    Last time I did a nationwide search on Cargurus, roughly 80%-85% of all 2020 JLs in inventory showed the 4-cyl motor. The two largest dealers near me, Jeep of Seattle and Bellevue Autonation, have only 4-cyl. 2020 JLs on the lot. Yes, even the Saharas.

    Perhaps FCA is trying to create further differentiation between JL and JT, to minimize cannibalization...?
     
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  14. Tin Man 2

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    Any 4 cylinder just seems wrong, most would prefer a 5.7 if it was available.
     
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    For dealer probably doesn't make much sense but for FCA it does. A model that sells 3-4k units monthly with many of those being fleet. The V8/C models generally will sit longer than the value v6 Limited models.
     
  16. chryslerkidd

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    100% true, for a period FCA was not letting dealers order V6 to promote the turbo. We received so many POS advertisements v6 vs Turbo, HP, MPG, toque etc
     
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    makes you wonder if they're running into a capacity issue with the V6 given how ubiquitous it is across the FCA lineup and the launch of Gladiator... o_O
     
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  18. Dave Z

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    ... which HAS happened before ...
     
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  19. Dave Z

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