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Grand Wagoneer better hurry.......

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by CDJSalesPro, Apr 7, 2019.

  1. UN4GTBL

    UN4GTBL Allpar Legacy

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    This thing is going to be amazing, look at the details on the interior teaser :eek:
     
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  2. Mopar392

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    They should bring Mohave and Trailhawk models from the get go..
     
  3. KrisW

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    That little bit of dashboard looks really nice - the use of materials is superb, and the sandwiched dark and light woods look really good. Bring something of this quality to Europe, and it could worry Range Rover.

    Personally, while I like the subtle use of gold on the badge lettering, I'm not at all keen on using flags in branding — did they think people would forget that Jeep is American?
     
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    I guess the flag will represent a special version (e.g. day one), and it will not last long.
     
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  5. Ryan

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    I'm guessing that they will release a Trailhawk immediately, but probably not Mojave.
     
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  6. saltydog

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    I am very excited about this!!! We as a family need a bigger SUV as the Explorer is getting small for us....
     
  7. tomaz

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    Alfa does the same with its Italian flag and colors so?


    Also i find it weird that the Teaser of the Grand Canyon is actually for the Wagoneer (so it seems) and not the Grand Cherokee.
     
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  8. Ryan

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    Could be for both. If the 3-row thing based on the Grand Cherokee uses the Grand Cherokee name, they have a lot of Grands coming out soon.
     
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  9. KrisW

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    Not on the outside, and as the Italian flag is a tricolor, designers can use those "national" colours in a design without it being seen as a flag. I don't mind that, and don't have any issue with other red, white and blue designs with white stars on, as long as it isn't the actual flag of the United States. I also think its cool if people want to display that flag themselves... there's absolutely nothing wrong with being proud of the place you're from.

    I guess my objection is to a manufacturer using the flag as a way to shift products.

    @Ryan I think there's a chance that both of the Wagoneers could be "Grand Wagoneer" too. Like for WL, sharing a nameplate across both BoF vehicles to aggregate sales makes sense for marketing (Jeep would love to be able to advertise this as "America's #1 selling Luxury SUV")
     
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  10. Ryan

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    That would make sense. Grand Cherokee and Grand Cherokee L, Grand Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer L -- I like the continuity.

    We know how frequently these things change, but for what it's worth Jeep referred to them separately on this slide.

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  11. KrisW

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    We are talking about Jeep, though, so continuity and logic are optional... :)
     
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    Perhaps this has already been explained (and sorry if it has been), but on the COVID operational update chart, it shows a 3-row full-size SUV beginning production in Q1 separately from the Wagoneer / Grand Wagoneer (Q2). Why is that? That wouldn't be the 3-row Grand Cherokee would it (since GC not supposed to launch until Q3)?

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  13. T_690

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    That's a 3 row Grand Cherokee.
     
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  15. Ryan

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    Used to be Expedition and Expedition EL. Now it's Expedition and Expedition Max.

    Lincoln uses the L designation for Navigator though.
     
  16. KrisW

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    How about an old Land Rover thing and just use the wheelbase in inches, so you'd have a "Grand Wagoneer 140" and a "Grand Wagoneer 155" (or whatever. I do not know the actual wheelbases)
     
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  17. T_690

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    No. Durango has longer wheelbase.
     
  18. Ryan

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    Realized that just now and deleted my post.
     
  19. tabutler

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    So, it's ok for the European companies, Alfa, Volvo, BMW, and Mini, to be proud of their country of origin, but an iconic American company doing the same is not ok? Are we going to forget that Volvo is Swedish, or Mini is British?
     
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  20. Chris mopar

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    I thought that the Wagoneer was going to be the swb and Grand Wagoneer is lwb, is that not correct? Or Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer Just trim level sharing same WB ?
     

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