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Is she worth it?

Discussion in 'A Body: Duster, Valiant, Dart, etc' started by ClayBelt40's, Oct 16, 2016.

  1. ClayBelt40's

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    So I am new here, as I said elsewhere, and am looking at buying a 1975 Plymouth Valiant. It has 519k on the Slant 6 engine (225HP I believe), and the bottom of the trunk is almost rusted out from where a weather seal broke. She has been her in the South for her whole life, and the current owner doesn't like to do body work, which is why he is selling her. He wants $650 for it. Is she worth it?
     
  2. geraldg

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    In my opinion it is to much for it with the mileage and trunk condition. Unless you are good at body work which can be a pain and if the trunk has rust I would bet it has some other rust issues. I would offer him $300 for it. Does it have 519k or was that a misprint ?
     
  3. ClayBelt40's

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    No misprint, it is 519k. Either way, someone else can have it I have decided.
     
  4. geraldg

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    Keep looking you will find a nice one with a lot less miles and for a good price.
     
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    The price on these cars has risen and it doesn't seem reasonable to be quibbling about $300 - the real question is how bad the damage really is and how much it'll cost to fix. The rear quarter panels are the big rust area, the inside of the trunk can probably be fixed relatively easily just because it's not visible from outside so you don't need to match paint colors. 519,000 miles on the same engine seems... well, high.
     
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    With 519k miles I would walk away for that reason alone.
     
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    Here's the thing, $650 is probably not far off the scrap value of the car. Also, the sum of the individual parts values will probably exceed $650. So the price is realistic if you are looking for a parts car. I would suggest spending a few more dollars and look for something with less miles/rust if you plan on restoring it.
     
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    I didn't notice how many doors, big difference in value.

    The owner remembers the odo rolling over 5 times??

    Thanks
    Randy
     
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    The owner does not, he bought it from a guy who got kicked out of his apartment. That guy had it for 10 years, he bought it from another guy in 1992. Surprised it still runs well, but it sounds better than the family minivan or the 2001 Tracker we used to drive.

    Classic 1975 Plymouth
     
  12. GLHS60

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    At a glance it doesn't look too bad.

    Missing rad cap, air cleaner on the seat and speaker holes in the door don't inspire confidence.

    First thing that jumps out is the low ride height.

    Torsion bars may be adjusted low on purpose or the cross member could be rusted away.

    If you're happy with how it starts, runs and drives you need to check out the chassis.

    Rusted trunk is one thing, rotten unibody is another.

    It is an eye catching color and the grille, trim, etc all look pretty good.

    If the wheel well and rocker trim are factory metal that's a good sign too.

    The front end body parts would be worth the price for someone fixing a damaged 2 dr.

    The ODO only goes to 99,999 so I'm guessing it reads 51,900, not 519,000

    Might have 159, 259, 359, etc but reads 51,900

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    Just don't be disappointed when you realize that you typed HP instead of CID. The slant-6 had 225 cubic inches of displacement (and two smaller sizes), and only about 95-100 net HP.
     
  14. ClayBelt40's

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    Misreading some things happens. The trunk was due to a bad weather seal, but it looks like the wiper bearings would have to be replaced, as the toe board shows water damage (cracked rubber and a small hole). The air intake and the radiator both function, the current owner fixed those when he first got it. Radiator cap was in the front seat in the photo. Are you sure those only role to 99,999? There was a 6th rollover in the dash, looked like it had just hit 8, that made me think it was 519,1(?)8. The torsion bar on one side does need replacing, that's also why the hood is slightly out of alignment. Either way, she sounds smoother than some of the cars I had been driving.
     
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    Those are a five digit mileage plus the tenths of miles. 51,91x.8 for example. The most the odometer would read is 99,999.9 miles, just 1/10th shy of 100k miles.
    looking at the front seat it looks like a 51k mile car, not a 519k mile car.
     
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    Well, that changes things a bit, and begs the question of how best to deal with the trunk.
     
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    My advise is to look at the title and see what it says, also contact your dept of motor vehicles and see what they have on it. The trunk floor is either your good at body work or know a good body man or find a donor car which could end up costing $$$$$$
     
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    Trunk floor pans are available in the repop sheetmetal market - though for a 1975 maybe not all pieces. Not terribly expensive for the part but expect to pay for installation.
     
  19. geraldg

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    Also where does the rust end and would you have to make some panels ? Is it worth it ?
     
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    It's about a 6" band around the outside. My DMV didn't have anything, but the VIN shows owners at 1975, 1992, 2006.
     

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