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Jeep and Dodge delay new models

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by Erik Latranyi, Jun 2, 2015.

  1. Erik Latranyi

    Erik Latranyi Allpar Legacy

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    From the article:

    Detroit - In the past year Fiat Chrysler (FCA) has delayed the redesign or release of at least a dozen current or new vehicles in North America, according to suppliers familiar with the company's plans.

    The unusual number of delays could let the carmaker defer billions of dollars in investment while searching for a partner
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    FCA also has delayed the planned release of a new Jeep compact utility vehicle that will supplant the Patriot and Compass, suppliers told Reuters. The as-yet-unnamed Jeep compact originally was to have gone into production in spring 2016, but has been pushed back at least six months, suppliers said.

    The company has postponed a full redesign of the Dart and the Dodge Journey crossover, both of which had been scheduled for mid-2016. Instead, both models will get a mild makeover, but may not be fully overhauled until 2019-2020, suppliers said.

    Plans to offer new full-size and mid-size crossover models under the Chrysler brand in 2017 and 2018, respectively, appear to have been postponed or shelved, suppliers said.

    A major redesign of FCA's full-size Chrysler 300, Dodge Charger and Dodge Challenger, originally slated for mid- to late 2018, could slip to 2019 or later, suppliers said.


    Full article here: http://www.iol.co.za/motoring/cars/chrysler/jeep-and-dodge-delay-new-models-1.1866627#.VW2f0CfbLX4
     
  2. UsuallyObserving

    UsuallyObserving New Member

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    History always seems to repeat itself...
     
  3. valiant67

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    If true - OUCH!
    But at least all those Alfas are still on track, right?
     
  4. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    I am at a loss of words... Fiat has a partner, it's Chrysler. Stop playing games and start focusing on the business you have.

    Mike
     
  5. Mopar392

    Mopar392 Well-Known Member

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    So, when someone previously said that Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep will be pushed aside for Alfa Romeo launch, he wasn't joking..
     
  6. W Bohannon

    W Bohannon Well-Known Member

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    You snooze, you lose! These delays of updates will effect sales,IMO! It also lets competition get another step ahead. Alfa and SM's obsession with it will sink Chrysler one day. SM is like most other high flying deal making, super star people that I've known. They burn like a sparkler for a short time and they get bored when it comes to the day to day and at times druggery of keeping a business on track through thick and thin.
     
  7. valiant67

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    But what about all those "it's in the plan" excuses for the thinness of Chrysler and Dodge's lineups?
    Chrysler remains 2 car (OK, maybe the 3rd is still coming) and one minivan lineup - and one of those cars is fairly low volume.
    Dodge gets nothing new, likely looses Caravan and sales dwindle. The projected drop of Dodge volume looks to now become permanent.
    When does either Dodge or Chrysler become unnecessary?
     
  8. dodgeatheart

    dodgeatheart Not THAT guy again!

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    Those 9 speed repairs and replacements can be expensive I guess...
     
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  9. Mr.Source

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    Told it several times the same about the 300 and some more.
    We are in deep trouble
     
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  10. humdrum

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    Strategically, I think it's a bad move to let the Chrysler products languish in order to prop up Alfa. Alfa is eating up resources on products that have yet to be proven sales producers. Sergio is in a back alley shooting craps with Alfa. Right now the market for American cars is driving sales. He needs to reprioritize the focus of FCA back to NA, so that he doesn't sacrifice known sales and profits for the possibility of profits in the Euro market. Unless he's damn sure that Alfa will be a success. That is why he is talking merger with another partner as a hedge for his bets. All in all, it's a crap shoot that we're looking at here.
     
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  11. freshforged

    freshforged Well-Known Member

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    Time to march on Auburn Hills. This situation is quickly reaching a tipping point.
     
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  12. valiant67

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    So, isn't this like DCX, when everyone said it wasn't? DCX delayed new products for Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep to save money. FCA is now doing the same. I can only hope the article is based on misinformed sources.
     
  13. FreeLantz

    FreeLantz Well-Known Jeeper

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    Could not have said it better.
     
  14. Erik Latranyi

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    Here is my fear:

    They are not looking for a partner, but for someone to unload Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram.

    I think the Agnelli family wants an Italian Car Company. They keep Fiat, Alfa, Maserati and Ferrari while spinning off the rest. They might even send some of that Alfa development money with Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep and Ram in the form of loans.
     
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  15. Mopar392

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    Beside Ram pickups, here is how potentially could happen,

    Alfa is Developing the next Mid-size and Full-Size platform, ranging from Sedans to SUVs. Then to expand the profit and minimize R&D, Jeep & Dodge will use the relative platforms.

    Chrysler being moved to a full lineup of FWD, could use fully scale-able Fiat platform. From the 100, and all the way maybe to 300..

    Too early to draw the final conclusion, but it seems SM and Fiat used Chrysler Group to get where they want and then would lead it to the slaughterhouse.
     
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  16. FreeLantz

    FreeLantz Well-Known Jeeper

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    I'm beginning to think all these grand plans were just for show, and there was never any intent by Fiat to make Chrysler a partner, long-term; only as long as needed to prop up their European operations. Of course they had to keep up appearances for a time. Now, they are beginning to show their true intentions.
     
  17. hmk123

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    You are playing the cards you are dealt with. The question is: how much has Alfa been delayed in the past years because of the focus on Chrysler? Or did one thing not have anything to do with the other? I don't know, just asking...

    To keep just focusing on the North American market because it is hot right now would be a mistake. Trees don't grow into the sky, they never have. These markets have cycles and you better hedge in different markets to survive long term. Those missing opportunities elsewhere during U.S. downturns has meant trouble for Chrysler in the past IMHO.

    While as a Mopar fan I don't like what I read it might make sense when looking 10 years ahead. With or without a partner.
     
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  18. Mopar392

    Mopar392 Well-Known Member

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    The argument is not about developing Alfa or not or developing products of international market or not.
    The arguments is about focus on the revival of Alfa, and milking the $..t out of the current Chrysler Group product in the NA market..

    How long will these products be selling before they get long in the teeth and just outdated?
     
  19. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator

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    Why focus on America? Because higher sales volume and a slightly better economy. The EU is still on the brink of collapse. Brazil is dropping like a rock. Russia and India Are floundering...

    Fiat has been trying to reboot Alfa for just over a decade. It seems they finally found the resources to do it... 1 Chrysler Drive, Auburn Hills, MI.

    Mike
     
  20. hmk123

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    Aren't we talking about cars that are meant to come out 2 to 5 years from now? If history repeats itself the U.S. economy will cool down during that time. Just my opinion... Doesn't it always after 5 to 7 years?
     
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