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Jeep teases a 392 Wrangler? Gladiator?

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by LeeRyder, Jul 11, 2020.

  1. Muther

    Muther Well-Known Member

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    As far as torque goes, 450lb feet is darned substantial. And even if a diesel delivers 450lb feet, remember that HP is the rate at which the engine delivers torque. This engine would be delivering its 450lb ft at nearly twice the rate of its competitors.

    Plus, the sooooouuund...

    There is no V6 or I4 in the world that has the sound of a 90°, odd firing V8 engine.
     
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  2. valiant67

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    Everything I've read says the "post fix" EcoDiesel is quite lacking compared to the "pre-fix" ones.
     
  3. Muther

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    Did they
    fix the cam gear issue?
     
  4. Ryan

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    A Rubicon EcoDiesel is around $60k $50k before adding any significant options. I'd guess somewhere around $70k for the "base" Wrangler 392.
     
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  5. IronMike3406

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    I think it will be closer to mid 60's for the 392 Wrangler hopefully they bring back the MOAB name again and make that the top Wrangler above the Rubicon. But if you even sat down and pencilled out what it would cost you to build your own 392 powered Wrangler you would be getting close to 60k after all is said and done. The wars have just begun and I don't think FCA will just let this one slide either....Kind of like what Ram has been doing year after year slowly knocking Ford off their pedestal
     
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  6. Ryan

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    I think you are right. I was incorrect above: the Rubicon EcoDiesel is around $50k before options, not $60k.
     
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  7. WXman

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    Right, but remember that I'm talking about the Gen 3 engine. The one with 480 lb/ft @ 1,600 RPM. The one that's allegedly 80% new and will be the powerhouse drivetrain going forward.

    To me, even the 5.7L Hemi feels stronger, faster, and like more of a beast when I test drove them in the same truck. When I then imagine what the 6.4L Hemi would be like in a 4,500 lb. vehicle... WHOA. That will be wild. Shoppers won't be able to replicate that in the Wrangler by choosing the diesel. Like somebody mentioned above me, having the torque WITH the horsepower is just a totally different scenario than diesel gives us.
     
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  8. aldo90731

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    Yeah, but a $50,000 Rubicon EcoDiesel would still come with soft top, cloth seats, incandescent headlights, base stereo, no navigation, no towing group, etc.... Seriously, who wants that...for $50,000?

    I just priced a 2020 JLUR EcoDiesel with every option on my Sahara; MSRP comes to $62,000!

    Pfft...I don’t think so. Jeep has a lot of work to do offering decent value.

    Thank God Ford is bringing Bronco.
     
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  9. valiant67

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    That's the problem I see too. yes, you can make an argument that a base Sport or Rubicon price is reasonable enough. But then you look at what is not included (but expected for the price level) suddenly the price is much greater. For gosh sakes, in this day and age, DRLs aren't even standard on the Sport models. And the list Aldo mentions as missing on an already $50k vehicle is ridiculous.
     
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  10. LeeRyder

    LeeRyder Well-Known Member

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    I agree and disagree.

    Finally competition to bring Jeep prices down and push for innovation!

    Sadly however, the competition (bronco) was designed by Disneyland toon town staff..
     
  11. WXman

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    It's very likely to happen, probably a 2022 model. That way they can stretch out the "steal wind from Bronco's sails" effect. The question everybody is asking is this: Will it be a very limited edition trim that's ultra expensive and impossible to get your hands on just so that FCA can enjoy the profits and buzz surrounding the model, or, will this be an upper level full production trim that's maybe a little more than a fully loaded Rubicon today and easy to order?

    I think a case could be made for doing either. But personally, I think FCA would have better success if they could pull off the latter. Get the 392 option into the hands of MORE consumers and they'd steal more Bronco sales.
     
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  12. HEMI345

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    I guess GM will not sit and watch Jeep and Ford do their things.

     
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    It's a shame GM "wasted" the Blazer name on a CUV.
    Hummer probably still has some positive (and negative) name recognition.
     
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    I would love to have a BEV Truck. It needs to get 300 to 400 mile range while towing comfortably my 9000lbs camper, and I must have a way to charge it while on the road.
     
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    I think they are using the hummer branding is in the right direction. They are talking about a suv version.
    It might have some legs...

    wil
     
  16. Mopar392

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    If Ford is bringing Bronco Raptor, Jeep is better differentiating 392 Wrangler and Gladiator by being dessert runners instead of being crawlers..
     
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    *Desert.... Wranglers and Gladiators aren't quite "cupcake mobiles"
     
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    This is what happens when typing on a stupid phone.
     
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  19. LordHobbit

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    I'm sure one could still go out for a slice of pie in a 392 Wrangler/Gladiator
     
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    With Bronco coming I hope that there is a better value proposition being developed for Wrangler (or Gladiator) considering the pricing versus options you mentioned.

    From everything that I've read and seen about Bronco it looks like they did their homework against Wrangler and it will be a strong competitor.
     
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