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Jeep to spin off into separate showrooms

Discussion in 'Mopar / FCA News' started by aldo90731, Aug 17, 2020.

  1. aldo90731

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    I have been a life-long Chrysler owner and, like you, I am very unhappy with the direction FCA has taken. The indifference this company shows towards its customers is truly astounding. In fact, I learned that every day I don’t have to go into an FCA dealership is a good day.

    But they got me hooked with Jeep Wranglers. Given where I live and what I do, Wranglers suit my needs perfectly. I tried moving on from Jeeps twice, but I didn’t last more than six months.

    For pretty much everything else FCA makes, other automakers offer very compelling —and often better— alternatives.
     
  2. Zagnut27

    Zagnut27 Jeepaholic

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    That sounds very similar to some of the experiences I’ve had at my 2 closest dealers. They’ve either not had any customer service training, or they’re not ensuring buy-in by their staff for whatever training they did get. Either way, it was just plain bad. And no, they couldn’t have cared less if I ever came back. Not in so many words, but as they say, actions speak louder.

    I had a rep from Comcast say something like what they said to you...I told him I was going to switch to Verizon after a particularly bad phone call with him, and he told me, “we lose and get new customers all the time”. I did get to speak with a VP of customer service over that exchange though....with positive results.
     
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  3. Zagnut27

    Zagnut27 Jeepaholic

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    I’m the exact opposite. I’m taking so long to make a decision that automakers have time to drag their feet and still produce something before I purchase. :D
     
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    You're a perfect fit for FCA! :D
     
  5. XRT2SRT

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    This is how I saw the BRANDS being repositioned leading up to the re-introduction of AR with MASERATI/JEEP/ALFA ROMEO being the Crème de la crème and CHRYSLER/DODGE/RAM/...FIAT, being the other sub-group. All for reasons you have stated here. I don't know why FCA didn't move in this direction from the start.
     
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  6. Zagnut27

    Zagnut27 Jeepaholic

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    A match made in heaven....well....maybe a little south of there...a bit warmer....:D
     
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    Mk was [bleep] bc Daimler was [bleep]. I have one with the axle half out because it hit a pothole that knocked the whole damn wheel off, etc.. & had a leak from the sunroof/dome light that wouldn't go away..
    I've had 2 wk Grand Cherokees, both had broken interior door handles and both needed head gaskets by the time we sold them.. So yeah. Daimler quality.

    Just because they continued to make them into the FCA period, didn't make them retroactively FCA any more than it makes them Stellantis cars.
     
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  8. aldo90731

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    So, if AR/Jeep/Maserati are the crème de la crème, are Chrysler/Dodge/Fiat the sediment brands then...?

    :D
     
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  9. aldo90731

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    Does anyone else find it strange that FCA has all these “brands” with only 2-3 models each?

    Alfa Romeo - Giulia, Stelvio
    Chrysler - 300, Pacifica
    Dodge - Challenger, Charger, Durango
    Lancia - Ypsilon
    Maserati - Ghibli, Levante, Quattroporte
    Ram - full-size pickup, Promaster

    No wonder FCA product planners love holding onto the outgoing models to be sold next to the new models, and are so prolific generating endless sticker editions.

    According to this, “Wrangler” would qualify to be its own separate brand.

    Tavares will have a lot of cleaning up to do.
     
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  10. FreeLantz

    FreeLantz Well-Known Jeeper

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    I'm not sure this is really news. Around here the newer Jeep showrooms are separate, but still attached to the main building. This is one I snapped a photo of when it was still under construction. Southfork Jeep in Manvel, TX. The entire facility is huge and the nicest CJDR store I've ever seen.
     

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  11. 77 Monaco Brougham

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    I would think curdled fat-free skim milk is more like it.:p:D
     
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    77 Monaco Brougham Well-Known Member

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    I wonder how Mr. Tavares feels about soon becoming the world's highest paid haz-mat cleaning specialist?:p:D
     
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  13. Zagnut27

    Zagnut27 Jeepaholic

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    Hey, there’s good money in hazmat remediation. :D
     
  14. tomaz

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    This is what i was saying at the begining of the thread! The Article said Separate SHOWROOM not Dealers.

     
  15. Tony K

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    Yeah, Daimler quality. My 08 has the OM642 3.0 L V6 turbodiesel, in and of itself is a good engine. But it has some potentially expensive issues. First, the swirl flaps. Mine failed the first year I had it (used, in 2015). That's a dirt cheap fix - just fool the ECM with a 20 cent resistor. Then, the big one IMU, they cheaped out on the oil cooler seal. I'm about 155k miles, and it's on my to-do list. Already a bit of a mess in the engine compartment from a slow leak there. Not using much oil, yet. That's just one particularly expensive fault with WKs that MB owns, and it's not a cheap fix if you have to get it done professionally, mostly because they will drop your engine, since getting to the turbo is a very difficult proposition otherwise. I've removed and installed a turbo with the engine in place, and it's a very difficult and painful experience in a WK. It requires serious labor in teardown to get to the oil cooler to replace a $5 seal. Then you really have about $130 in total parts you need to replace when you do that, plus at least one special tool at $27 that you probably can't find at Autozone.

    Breakdown by IDParts
    OM642 Basic Seal listing:

    • New Style Purple Viton Oil Cooler Seals (2)
    • Intake Manifold Gaskets (2)
    • Turbocharger Outlet Seal
    • EGR to Intake Manifold O-Ring Seal
    • EGR Cooler to Intake Manifold Gasket
    • EGR Cooler Small O-Ring
    • Turbocharger Support to Block Gasket
    • Turbocharger Support to Turbo Gasket
    • Exhaust Manifold to Turbo Seal
    • NEW Intake Manifold Coolant Pipe - not just new o-rings like other kits!
    • Left Side Exhaust Collector Gasket
    • Right Side Exhaust Collector Gasket
    • EGR Elbow Seals (2)
    • Downpipe Gasket
    • Full Set of Exhaust Collector Bolts - these bolts often break when being removed and should not be re-used regardless
    • Turbo to Downpipe bolts
    Plus WK-specific Intake Manifold O Ring Seal

    Plus a $27 17mm Special EGT/Injector Line Socket

    IDParts also recommends taking the opportunity to replace the thermostat while you're at it, but if not, they recommend another $18 thermostat seal.
     
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    Well RAM has more vehicles, and also depends in which market You are.
    In U.S.A. are 1500, HD pickups, Promaster and Promaster City.

    In Mexico there is no Promaster City, but You have 700, Promaster Rapid, 1500, Promaster, 4000, 2500 HD, ...
    It is interesting the new way they group the RAM vehicles in Mexico: "lujo" (luxury), "deportivas" (sport) and "comerciales" (commercial/work).

    Sitio Oficial de RAM México. (at https://www.ram.com.mx/ )
     
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    While I was travelling last week, I ran across one of these new separate Jeep showroom dealers. I now have to add aesthetics to my list of concerns about this approach. The CDR side was the "normal" white-ish look with arched entry these dealers have had for years, but the other side of the building for Jeep was block style, dark with "wood" accents. Neither building looked bad, but when they were parts of the same building, it looks odd.
     
  18. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
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    Never liked the arches. Thought they looked old-fashioned and overly complex and ... well, like the kind of things old-fashioned car dealers would like.
     
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    Agreed. It was an out of date of design when it was new. Personally I like the old block letter style that the 70s and 80s Chrysler dealerships had. Obviously that's way dated now. Something akin to like what Honda has done with their dealerships probably would have gotten a little bit better. That said I still can't get my head around the styling choices of the dealerships. Greenway Dodge in the Orlando area has a relatively new dealership and somehow they were allowed to make it modeled with the adjacent Ford dealership next door. Which means that the Dodge dealership looks identical to every Ford dealership out there.
     
  20. dennisimperial

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    These FCA folks are crazy and we as CDR fans are so starved for info and product that we (some of us) believe everything they say or don't say and try to spin it positive.
     
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