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JL Wrangler 2.0 liter makes 368 HP?!

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by kilgore, Oct 5, 2017.

  1. Ruptured Duck

    Ruptured Duck Active Member

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    reality sets in.... but really people, a 4cyl at or just north of 300hp is still rather cool for a Wrangler. I would rather see well tuned motor that delivers good torque numbers as well as hp. For the Jeep the first being the most important over a large band.
     
  2. dakrt99

    dakrt99 Well-Known Member

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    The haters are going to say, see, I told you FCA can't build a great turbo 4, leave it to the Europeans. I figured there was some mistake but hoped it was true, that would have been awesome. 300HP turbo 4 has been done already, by a lot of companies, nothing new, that's what is disappointing. STi was 305HP 10 years ago. I have to admit, I'm disappointed. Oh well, it's not going to effect the Wrangler's appeal in any way. Still psyched.
     
  3. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator
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    Sorry, but you are being overly harsh and comparing an inline 4 to a flat four is like apples and oranges.

    Again, there is already a 285hp version of the basic engine, which is absolutely nothing to scoff at. You are right though, haters are going to hate and you sound like you are being one of them since you seem to think a 280hp-290hp turbo 2.0L is not competitive enough. Any disappointment about power from the future FCA turbo 2.0 is really over blown when compared to the competition.

    Let’s compare:
    • Ford/Mazda turbo 2.0 - 252 hp
    • Hyundai’s turbo 2.0 - 245 hp.
    • GM turbo 2.0 - 250 hp
    I rest my case.

    Mike
     
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  4. CDJSalesPro

    CDJSalesPro Well-Known Member

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    Agreed...... I dont know who honestly thought JEEP was going to go for a 368hp for a Wrangler anyway.....It makes no sense.. Now if we actually still had a Dart or 200... that would have made a little sense. As a SRT version of one of those.
     
  5. v.b.

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    BMW turbo 2.0 - 255 hp
     
  6. AlfaCuda

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    I don't think that the 350hp version is on sale as yet, or even revealed. Just the 200 and 280bhp versions.
     
  7. DAGAR

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    :p
     
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  8. suzq044

    suzq044 Resident Photoshop Nerd

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    I forget; was the Journey replacement supposed to be on CUSW? or something else?
     
  9. DAGAR

    DAGAR Active Member

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    Dodge "Journey replacement" = Giorgio and very different vehicle. Real Journey replacement = Chrysler Cherokee/K8 derived = CUSW.
     
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  10. suzq044

    suzq044 Resident Photoshop Nerd

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    Thanks. Wasn't sure, obviously. So perhaps the K8/Chrysler could be a powered-by-SRT vehicle at some point with the higher-end Hurricane?
     
  11. GasAxe

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    I'd guess it's possible, but pretty unlikely for the Chrysler Journey or any other Chrysler except the 300 to get SRT power.
     
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  12. redriderbob

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    Neither are planned for that.
     
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  13. suzq044

    suzq044 Resident Photoshop Nerd

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    aww :c no fun. lol
     
  14. redriderbob

    redriderbob Mopar Guru!
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    I mean you might see an S version that is sporty, but it wouldn't be on par with a track based crossover... it will be a direct replacement for the Journey look how performance based that is...

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Mike V.

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    Pun was intended ;) :D

    Mike
     
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  16. Mike V.

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    No, Dodge will have its own vehicle to do a SRT version.

    Mike
     
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  17. UN4GTBL

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    Assuming they are still on for that 5 year plan, the Dodge CUV will have an SRT version. Granted that 5 year plan also showed a Dart SRT too, so not sure how valid that would be now.

    The Chrysler CUV (actual Journey replacement) would not have a need to get an SRT model, IMO
     
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  18. dakrt99

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    Not a hater, just disappointed because I was hoping it was true. 280 - 290 is competitive, just not head of the class. I wanted FCA to grind down the competition, that's all. Deep down I suspected it was an error. There are some very potent straight fours though.

    Honda: 306HP
    Ford: 350HP
    MB: 375
    Volvo: 316
    Volvo: 362
     
  19. Mike V.

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    You are stretching the truth to try to defend an undefendable comment...

    This is a high performance variant only, the Hurricane 2.0 being used in the JL is not a high performance variant... this is not a valid comparison

    This is a larger 2.3L turbo engine used in a high performance variant... like above, this is not a valid comparison.

    Again, this is the AMG performance variant... the standard version, which is comparable to the Hurricane to be used in the JL is rated at 208 hp... like above, this is not a valid comparison

    Another incorrect comparison... you are quoting the upgraded, higher performance variant of the Volvo turbo and supercharged 2.0. The standard Volvo turbo 2.0 is rated at 240 in the S60 and V60 or 250 hp in the S90 and XC90... like above this is not a valid comparison

    Same old story and same old song and dance. This is also not a valid comparison

    You are not being honest because all of your example are engines that are NOT direct competitors to the 2.0 turbo that will be installed in the JL.

    You are right, haters are gonna hate.

    Mike
     
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  20. Morty

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    280 hp could be good for the Wrangler, in that application it is more about low end torque than about outright hp. Who is to say they will not have a 350hp version for other models?;)
     
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