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Judge: FCA reps didn’t lie

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by Dave Z, Aug 3, 2017.

  1. Dave Z

    Dave Z It's me, Dave
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    Yesterday, federal judge Jesse Furman rejected a lawsuit from investors who sued FCA in the aftermath of an EPA action against its diesel-powered Ram 1500 and Jeep Grand Cherokee. The judge ruled that the investors did not provide evidence that company leaders were “consciously reckless” or deliberately lying when saying that their vehicles complied with emissions […]
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  2. Tomguy

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    More good news on the Diesel front. Unfortunate however, I think the stain on Diesel caused by VW, just after Americans had gotten over the previous sour taste it left from the 80s GM Diesels and the black smoke that many Mercs left behind, will linger until the inevitable fall of the ICE as a mode of powering passenger vehicles.
     
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    So.....Its over? FCA is done? ECO Diesel is back and the lawsuits have no ground?
     
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    Very Good News.
     
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    Awesome!
     
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    That's the best kind of news!
     
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    No. There is the Department of Justice in name of EPA/CARB vs. FCA US LLC in San Francisco for vehicle not being conform to certification.
     
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    EcoDiesel is back for 2018 (and pre-sold/ordered 2017s I guess?) but no, it's not done. The EPA and CARB still have suits against FCA for the issue. This lawsuit was placed by investors alleging that FCA knew and was lying about emissions certifications, similar to VWs intentional misleading. It was dismissed due to lack of evidence, because there was no actual collusion amongst FCA heads in this.
     
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    In addition to others mentioning the EPA CARB suit, there are also class action lawsuits for consumers claiming that the emissions issues have cost them (primarily) resale value.
     
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    It will be appealed and stay in the court system for years..
     
  11. Morty

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    Slightly easier in Germany. The German manufacturers, ministers and politicians just had a meeting. Basically, the manufacturers admitted to having been a bit naughty, but promised to modify 5.3 million cars. All is well, case closed.
    Prost!!:D:eek::eek:
     
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    It is always nice to see when government gets in bed with the companies they regulate and then needs to "punish" them.....they have to decide which is more important......money or the environment?

    Of course, money in the government bank account is more important than anything, even the lives of little babies.
     
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  13. Dave Z

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    It's possible, though not plausible, they figured that if VW went bankrupt, they would not be “fixing” any of their cars.
     
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    Does Takata's bankruptcy preclude them from replacing their faulty airbags? I would assume the company would remain liable because it's a safety issue (in both VW's and Takata's cases).
     
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    VAG has billions on hand. It would not have caused a bankruptcy, but it would have affected the payout to their government owners tax coffers.
     
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