I bought my Liberty Renegade new back in 2002 (an 03 model) because I needed more room than my 98 wrangler could handle. I used the wrangler as a daily driver, but also for light off roading on dirt trails with some fallen tree obstacles possible, and of course the snow. I used my Liberty in a similar fashion for about 9 years, and now use it primarily for hauling the dogs/stuff, and for the snow...it's darn good in the snow. I live in the country, but work in Philly and find it useful climbing over curbs and other obstacles from the darn road crews. It's built like a tank. My wife's Encore went over a curb, and the all wheel drive turned off for Pete's sake! I would love a modernized version of the Liberty, or something better, but I need three rows...we've got newborn twins with lots of stuff. Maybe the Wagoneer if/when it ever arrives??