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Looking ahead: product pipelines

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by Dave Z, Dec 22, 2017.

  1. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator
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    You have no idea what future engine or transmissions are being tested right before our very eyes.

    Mike
     
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  2. TripleT

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    What is EVOL talking about the replacement for the PentaStar already exists? If everything doesn't move to a mild Hybrid within 5 years at FCA it will be standing alone looking very behind. Yes the Hemi lives on in the form of Performance options but bread and butter vehicles will have less cylinders and electric assist.
     
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  3. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator
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    Correct... I can not deny or confirm anything else ;)

    Mike
     
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  4. Mike V.

    Mike V. Mopar-nac The Moderator
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    And safety = additional weight

    Mike
     
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  5. T_690

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    How about mild hybrid V8?

    And yes. Most people do not realize that we already have Pentastar V6 replacement.
     
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  6. TripleT

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    Not able to see implementation plans at FCA anymore or I would not be able to post here.... but I can confirm that one of her domestic rivals will and talking to a Class 9 shipping expert that is working with all 3 traditionally domestic manufactures everyone is working on overcoming the shipping issues involved in moving large Lithium Ion batteries in bulk. But sure it all conjecture at this point :p Vaporware
     
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  7. Dave Z

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    You mean the eTorque system? Yes, that does seem like a very viable Pentastar replacement.

    Mild hybrid V8 — I would bet that's in the cards, just based on past experience, The cylinder deactivation is boosted by the hybrid setup... or at least it was in the Aspen/Durango.

    I don't know why I should have to repeat myself, but GME T6 is not vaporware or something they stopped working on after the election. It's real. What's more, even if the EPA dropped all fuel economy standards tomorrow, FCA would still need modern engines for the rest of the world.
     
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  8. Erik Latranyi

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    Anyone who wants to compare vehicle weights from the past to the present are either uneducated or intentionally dishonest.

    Today's vehicles have to meet many more safety regulations that add weight.

    Additionally, non regulated criteria (like IIHS safety ratings) are critical or a vehicle can be destroyed in the media. This creates a need to satisfy all sorts of non-regulated crash testing by the auto companies....which adds weight.

    So, if you try to compare a vehicle today to one from 2000, you are comparing apples to oranges.
     
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  9. MJAB

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    Pentastar 3.6 with eTorque system (belt starter generator) mild hybrid is practically official.

    It is in the leaked manual of Jeep JL.

    MGU
    "... 3.6L Motor Generator Unit (MGU) (Mopar Antifreeze/Engine Coolant 10 Year/150,000 Mile Formula or equivalent) ..."

    and the liquid for cooling the battery
    "... 3.6L Battery Coolant (Mopar Antifreeze/Engine Coolant 10 Year/150,000 Mile Formula or equivalent) ...".
     
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  10. DarkSky

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    Yes. And if someone wants to compare weights of a modern vehicle with one from 2000, the older vehicle needs to be put through today’s safety test ratings to see how well it fares.
     
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    Yes, and that's MY2019.
     
  12. TripleT

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    How do you make popular CUVs as efficient as smaller frontal area and slightly lighter sedan sisters..... hmmmmmm IDK
     
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  13. DAGAR

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    You know @Mike V. Implied while keepin the cost similar.
     
  14. DAGAR

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    And your cheap way will not meet current crash standards that's why LH went bye bye.
     
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  15. TripleT

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    You know that is what the :D acknowledged.... ACTUALLY some the Alfa components will be cheaper when proven and ramped up to full scale. Its on the way. Had Daimler not cancelled out of pure arrogance the work being done on the CCV project they would already be years ahead. The CCV was just to ambitious in scale but was one the right path. Everything that Alfa did already existed then.... Mike knew what I was doing :p
     
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  16. DAGAR

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    Hint a very poor rating is coming... ;)
     
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    I know he did, but there's a newer member here who believes stuff like this the argues it like fantasy is fact. Only for that reason did I reply ;)
     
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  18. TripleT

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    You think there are many new members, or just member reboots? IDK just sayin. :D ..... step one Giulia, Step two Stelvio... Step 3 higher volume and more adoption in more components.... Hint... look at the resin being used to 3D print cars... extrusion is not the only way to process that material.....
     
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  19. DAGAR

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    I share your suspicion... ;)
     
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  20. David S

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    Cars should be around 3200 lbs. That means expensive weight savings technology for compacts is a waste. For large cars it is a help.

    Notice on the grahic being under 3000 lbs is deadly, but a car over 3000 lbs is safer than any pickup.

    www informedforlife org/viewartcl.php?index=83
     

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