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Mild redesign for the Pacifica

Discussion in 'Mopar News' started by Mr.Source, Dec 29, 2019.

  1. Zagnut27

    Zagnut27 Jeepaholic

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    Unfortunately not false, and apparently the moderators encourage it...I’ve got screenshots to prove it. I sent you a PM.
     
  2. Adventurer55

    Adventurer55 Well-Known Member

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    Honestly that sight is perfect for those folks.
     
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  3. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    Cool. Does it look a lot like the renderings that MoperInsiders posted?
     
  4. flffddy

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    If it does, boy would it be easy to slap a crosshair on that grill and call it a Grand Caravan.
     
  5. codypet

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    Complete with racetrack tailights.
     
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    You can make a crosshair in your garage!
     
  7. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    I wonder if that's the plan for the Canadian market (and maybe part of the reason for the redesign). The DGC outsells the Pacifica by about 20:1 here.
     
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  8. flffddy

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    They would be smart to sell it here as well and dump the Voyager.
     
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  9. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    I agree completely but for some reason FCA seems determined to fit a square peg into a round hole with their brand plans.
     
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    Absolutely. I just returned my rental after a month of use. Best value in any vehicle as far as I'm concerned. Loved it. It's made my next vehicle purchase that much more difficult.
     
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    If they do sell it as a DGC, how would that fit Dodges "affordable performance brand" image? Performance comes in many forms but a Minivan?, NO.
     
  12. pug-man

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    Performance just means it works. We good to go.:)
     
  13. Tin Man 2

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    The Caravan was offered with a performance variant for a few years also later as an R/T. The Blacked out Pacifica looks kind of Tuff, as others have said performance DOES come in many forms.
     
  14. Adventurer55

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    Their brand plans are so rigid that they will completely kill the most established minivan brand on the market. I mean the level stupidity runs so deep in this company sometimes. It's hard to fathom that the same people also build and sell Ram and Jeep.
     
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    But yet, they keep giving higher performance SUVs to Jeep instead of Dodge so brand plans don’t really mean anything sometimes.
     
  16. Adventurer55

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    Agreed. If you go back to the 60s and early 70s Dodge did both just fine. And I believe they can do that today. One has to assume that this rigidity is coming right from the top. Certainly people lower in the food chain can see this and can't change it.
     
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  17. Zagnut27

    Zagnut27 Jeepaholic

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    They can do variants that have the performance “look”, but if they don’t have anything better under the hood than the standard versions then what’s the point? It’s like calling your vehicle a Hellcat, and giving it the performance “look”, but it’s still got the same V6 as the rest of the lineup. Perhaps the new 6 engines, inline and turbo and such can provide the bang for the buck that a performance variant might need (and actually fit into the engine bay).

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    You can make a performance variant of pretty much anything, because as others including you have said, performance has many levels and meanings. The issue as always is, do they feel there would be enough demand to make a good return on investment?

    I’d say this though, if they made a Trailhawk van of some sort for Jeep, I’d have my wallet ready. :) (Off-road performance....different flavor, but still ice cream. And who doesn’t like ice cream?? :D)
     
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  18. Tin Man 2

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    A Pacifica with “tighter” suspension, hotter gear ratio and up graded brakes would qualify as a Dodge. A bit more power would not hurt, although the 3.6 with the 9 speed runs pretty strong. A hood scoop seems a little over the top, but God knows Subaru gets away with it.
     
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  19. Powdered Toast Man

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    I just don't get this push to make Dodge a performance brand. It never was. Yes, they had muscle cars 50 years ago but they also sold family cars and trucks in that era too. If Dodge truly is supposed to be a performance niche brand then they shouldn't even be selling SXT models at all.

    But even in the 90's you had Viper alongside Neon, Stratus, Intrepid, Caravan, Grand Caravan, Dakota, Ram 1500, and Durango. You can't make Dodge into some sort of premium sports car make because when you ask the general public about Dodge they think of these sort of vehicles. Heck, most of the blue collar people I know and work with still refer to all Ram trucks as "Dodge trucks". We had a fleet of pickups at work of various makes and when we got a couple Ram 1500's the foremen would tell me, "take the Dodge" when referring to those trucks.
     
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  20. Powdered Toast Man

    Powdered Toast Man Move along, nothing to see here

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    I would buy the heck out of that. Omg that looks awesome.

    Also, let's not forget Grand Caravan R/T. From the words of Ralph Gilles: "For the guy who wants this (points at Challenger R/T) but needs this (points at GC R/T)."
     
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