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Motor Trend's 2018 Car of the Year Award: Alfa Romeo Giulia

Discussion in 'Fiat News & Rumors' started by romalerig, Nov 28, 2017.

  1. romalerig

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    Alfa Romeo Giulia is the 2018 Motor Trend Car of the Year - Motor Trend (at http://www.motortrend.com/news/alfa-romeo-giulia-2018-car-of-the-year/?utm_campaign=later-linkinbio-motortrend&utm_content=later-398537&utm_medium=social&utm_source=instagram )



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    Aaawwww yeah! Well done FCA!! :D
    This will probably cause a nice boost in sales.
     
  3. T_690

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    And still according to them GME beats EPA mileage in real life. 37.9 mpg on HWY for 280 ponies. :cool:
     
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    "But in this year’s accelerated wear-and-tear Car of the Year testing of three Giulias, we found nary a glitch, hiccup, or bark of protest—while several cars from other luxury automakers had notable issues."

    "After we had tested all the finalists, we deliberated their attributes. MacKenzie noted, even to those who might not vote for Giulia in first place: “Look at all the smiles. This car makes you smile.”

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  5. Erik Latranyi

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    What is your point?

    Did someone say that EVERY Giulia had problems? If we did, please prove it. Otherwise, this is childish.
     
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    Oh, I know that you are selective. It's always same with you. According to you all Giulias have issues even if you search giuliaforums. And all of that is simply not true.

    I have nothing against of keeping bombing each other but let's be fair. So far I have't seen fair approach from your side.
     
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    Yes, what exactly is your point? Even the article mentions the early cars were far from trouble-free (I see you have selected only the portion that fits your agenda).
    And receiving a "Car of the Year" award from Motor trend hardly guarantees it's a great car, given that the Ford Probe, Renault Alliance and Chevy Citation also received this award. The market will determine that.
     
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    The same market that determined that the Dart and the 200 were failures before being axed?
     
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    The market never determined the Dart and 200 as failures. If anything, what the market said was that they were overpriced for what they were (especially the 200 which sold well when heavily discounted). It was Sergio, when seeing the lack ability to move the cars at higher prices, that determined them a failure.
     
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    Correctly. I can't remember any comparison test they won. Actually I can't remember it they were in upper part of comparison tests,Both Pacifica and Giulia won such a tests. OK, Pacifica competitors can be counted on single hand. But Giulia is playing in highly competitive field.

    For me those are signs that FCA has engineering know how.
     
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    “Best steering, best chassis—this car saves the sport sedan market,” says guest judge Chris Theodore—the former Ford and Chrysler product development executive who knows something about creating cars to make a soul ache.

    “It was the only car that said, ‘You’re in charge. You want to be nice and tidy, I can be tidy. You want to be crazy and drift me wild, I’ll be right there with you,’” Theodore adds. “You fall in love with it.”



    What clinched the Calipers was the base Giulia. Many brands make blazingly fast performance sedans, but when the exercise is reduced by mass-market pressures, the lesser version is often found lacking. Not so here. The $38,990 base Giulia achieves something Acura, Lexus, Infiniti, and Jaguar have tried futilely to do for decades: build a better compact sport sedan than the Deutschlanders.



    “The design, packaging, and various visual elements seem to come together to complement each other,” former Chrysler design boss Tom Gale says, pointing to the shield grille, shrouded instrument cluster, and ’60s-inspired wood inlays as iconic Alfa styling points.
     
  12. Deckard_Cain

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    In Europe the Giulia IS selling. And this award is great for awareness in the US.
    And this will be good for Dodge. When they get cars on the G platform it will be a lauded base if it's coming from a car with a great reputation.

    In Europe, the Q variant is the leader in super-special versions although both BMW M3's together still take the lead. Several versions of the sedan are competitive with the germans. The 280hp petrol engine version is a homerun.
    The problem is that FCA has made too few variants of the Giulia to capture more sales from the germans. No station-wagon is a cardinal sin in Europe for example. If they want to be competitive they can be by releasing a station wagon, a coupé and a petrol engine with power in-between the 280hp 4-cylinder version and the Q.

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    And now the ball is in the camp of the marketing and advertisers staff. I hope they'll find a good way to make good Alfa ads.
     
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    That is freaking sweeet! Congradulations Alfa and FCA!
     
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    @Deckard_Cain - Very interesting breakdown. Thanks!

    It's hard to see exactly how Giulia is doing when looking at the aggregated sales numbers, because the Germans' model ranges reach much further down-market, and those entry-level sales make up a lot of sales (although not much profit per unit). But when you take out those low-end models (which Alfa is deliberately not targeting at present), it's clear that Alfa is doing very well.

    It's clear that wherever a Giulia is an option for buyers, it's winning significant share of sales. The QV in particular must be the subject of a lot of tense meetings in northern Munich: for Alfa to come from nowhere and immediately take a third of the highest-margin piece of its segment is unprecedented. Is Giulia QV taking sales from the existing players here, or has Alfa broadened the market?
     
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    My thought, initially, was "but, but, but the electrical problems?" Because the media (and others) have made a big deal out of some real and perceived problems - anyone "in the know" is questioning this MT article.

    So to read that - is astounding!

    Don't take it personally.
     
  18. Deckard_Cain

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    Yup. If/when FCA expands the Giulia range they'll increase sales. Especially if they bring in more engine options (the 350hp MHEV will surely be a homerun) and if they brought a station wagon. The coupé would be a great competitor versus the 4 Series and probably would sell better in the US.

    I can't answer that unfortunately. Even if they broadened the market they probably stopped the growth of the germans.
    Also this is even more impressive if you look at what Jaguar failed to accomplish with the XE. Or Volvo with the S60.
     
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    That's sedan vs sedan. For German trio they are just small portion of sales, especially for Audi which is a fleet queen.

    There are two questions. Would Giulia wagon cannibalize Giulia sedan and Stelvio sales? Can they plan in company car segment in Germany? Can some German company green lit Giulia as a choice for their employees?
     
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    This is great!

    Now, to overcome prevailing perceptions that Alfa Romeo makes poor quality products, and moreover, be able to establish a reputation for making good quality automobiles, it needs to top the quality charts, every year for the next decade. And every single product Alfa Romeo launches going forward, has to deliver the exact same quality, without exceptions, with no ifs or buts.

    That’s what it took Lexus to establish a quality reputation.

    Who on here believes that’s going to happen...?
     
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